I’ve waited a week to make this thread, just to be sure that there was some backing to my initial suspicions that Brigitte and Orisa were overnerfed. Lo and behold, their win rates and pick rates have plummeted and the meta is forming without them.
I can only hope we get buffs or reverts soon rather than months from now, or god forbid years. It’s understandable that many were frustrated with the double shield meta but it’s clear that the nerfs were a bit heavy handed.
i dont play much brig so i cant say about her(i mean i used to but not now) however i agree with orisa, halt was such a strong ability and it did need a nerf imo however the nerf was very harsh
Frustrates me that people are still picking Brig after what they have done.
She has had like 20 nerfs but she is still useful… because people like to flank supports which is the problem. The other supports are very squishy. Dead healers can’t heal.
People that say shes still useful is why we are in this mess… overnerfing hero ti f tier is the porblem with this game.
Wouldn’t say the dust has settled… people still don’t know what the meta is.
Brigitte will be good still, when shield tanks are played more. Then she can get some cover and shield dance easier.
Orisa just doesn’t have anything going for her, shield is weak, fortify is just kinda bad, as her HP was reverted, halt is overnerfed, both projectile speed and radius makes it very niche. Her gun was good with other parts of her kit being decent too, plz give Orisa and D.Va too just something. They are struggling
so that means she was only meta because of shields meaning she didnt need the nerfs. Blizz has 0 idea on how to balance this game.
Well we have clearly op heroes like Ashe. They nerf healers… but they nerf them for both teams so it doesn’t really matter so much since we all have access to the same 6 healers… and it’s like now we got 16 healers/tanks to choose from like dps. Even then 5 ish dps rule the whole game being usefull most of the time like Ashe for example, she is very useful all the time. Bridgette is one of these heroes due to there not being many healers and she is a bulky healer. Meaning she doesn’t go down as easy as a zen who doesn’t know what they are doing. This game overvalues bulk because… let’s face it tanks are pretty op. Why are they op? So we justify having them as a role and people actually play them. 222 sort of creates prolems due to the forced comps too. Until we have more healers we are stuck with Bridgette because her design is very useful against most close range heroes. Which people tend to like to play.
shes not bulky anymore tho, any flanker can kill her easly. On top of that shes a melee hero in a shieldless meta… shes no in a good place.
I’m going to be “that guy” and say that unless we are talking Masters+ play here on every map and comp, Brig is still very useful still.
Orisa is near death, but Brig is still very far from it. Whip-shot is still incredibly good, her healing is still good, Rally is still amazingly good when she can get full duration out of it…
Orisa quite frankly was just not unique enough of a design to begin with. Both her and Sigma should not have been barrier tanks. There are so many options for damage mitigation and prevention they could try but have been scared of.
Why not an AoE damage resist? Why not an Anti crit tank? Why not Anti CC? So many options that have not even hit the table while barriers are lazily chosen as the only means of main tank with the exception of ball.
Time to rework Orisa and make her more unique and useful.
Not to mention her burst healing is pretty good if she uses 2 or more charges on a hero.
That was pretty much the point of the nerfs. Dont expect reverts. They want a faster meta like dive or hog/zarya.
The dust definitely hasn’t settled…the patch has been live for a week.
I don’t know how much brig you played in the last days, but she is not in a good place. in gold/plat, she is rarely played and totally outshined by ana, moira (or even lucio who is in a way better state than her now)
without the support of good shield tanks, she is toast the moment the enemy dps switches to ashe, widow or soldier. you are forced to use corners and hide in every edge of the map to prevent being one- or two shot by hanzo, ashe or widow.
my experience is that this is a hitscan-heavy phase, which is terrible for brig. she only shines on smaller maps when the enemy goes hog and ball torture or has a genji.
I only had one really good game with brig the last couple of days and it was because the enemy team was brawling and was totally ignoring me. other than that it’s very difficult to get good value out of her kit, espacially in lower ranks where the teams are spread out and there is not much communication.
And that is bad because they need to be meta for another year?
Lets give other chars a chance.
I literally play her every day. Ashe I agree is a problem - a whole other problem, and this coming from a former Ashe player.
well there is no reason to play her at the moment, as almost all other support have more value (or more value in more situations). i guess only die hard brig mains play her more than once in a couple of maps.
i’m glad that you have a different experience with her, but i for myself (being a brig main for a long time now) have stopped playing her, especially as ana shines more then ever with less shields and hog as one of the most played tanks in the game
Her weakness was always ranged heroes. That shield nerfs also her bridgette because she should be close to her team to heal them. We have other ranged heroes that are better then her which is good for ranged heroes. But she still shines in close combat heals. If the enemy has close combat damage dealers she is also a useful peeler.