Alec Dawson noted that the team is working on reducing frustrations by softening hard counters in-game.
YEAH but at the same time, they buffed dva to 3.5 defense matrix and now she hardcounter no beams heros even more.
nice job team balance. now buff sombra hack to or let pharah fly higher on the air.
They should’ve never buffed Dm to 3.5.
She never needed more help with what she was already good against
Alec knows beams are a big issue when it comes to hard counters for her which is why he brought up Zarya vs Dva.
I’d expect a DM revert and something to help against beams next patch.
Had a game earlier today where the enemy team STARTED out on Zarya Mei Sym and had a zen to discord me and this was in quickplay.
It’s absolutely ridiculous how bad counterplay is towards Dva.
they still dont understand the tank counterpick problem
Eventually will maybe get there by OW3
Skill issue if you can’t play around beams
Hey, at least it was nothing personal. Probably.
Many characters are getting stop gap solutions.
Roadhog I think was one of those heroes early on in OW1 during season 2 that got gutted right away, was allowed to stay bad, then only slowly gave him some small compensation buffs until the rework happened.
I mean, they’ve been saying this line since before OW2’s release and then immediately do the opposite literally every. single. time.
Like they said it just before releasing Kiriko, who directly countered many characters including completely nullifying their new tank (JQ)
the also nerfed zarya bubble. should have added that if you were really genuine ?
If they nerf beam damage against DVa she will need to have some serious nerfs. I can just see the DVa mains crying about 2.5s DM in exchange for it reducing beam damage by 30%.
They want the beam damage reduction AND 3.5s DM.
Zarya bubble got buffed though. It was buffed then nerfed quickly but it was still left with a buff overall.
this will never happen.
The hero designer clearly said, that dva with these buff will need to learn new strategies to play around zarya. Since now the gap is narrowed, she can do it.
the true is that if they want make 5vs5 work, tanks cant be soo good againsts x thing and very bad againsts other things… because this balance design only forces the enemy to counter the enemy tank or lose.
on this way, they only can change defense matrix to denied like 65% normal dmg and like 45% beams. or something like that.
No one cares what you want buddy.
The game needs more tanks to que. They have to be fun and enjoyable. Or you sitting in 20 min que.
We been slaying Dva with Sym with ease. Why do you only need to play Genji, solider make some swaps.
The lead hero designer also said, it is not the tanks job to swap, the dps and support can equally swap and put pressure.
Try to learn the game. I understand overwatch has a huge learning curve but you dont need to make a post when you lack basic knowledge of hero counters.
try to play around your team. We are doing fine here, with the latest patch.
I just won a game as Mauga, into Dva. I wasnt charging into the team, i was waiting and draining Diva Matria and then using my Cardiac overdrive. It was a good fun made me use my brain.
I dont need to be stuck into a mindless meta where we dont use our brain. We need to be active.
My heals enjoyed the game and even endorse me
Removing counterpicking from OW is like removing a person’s skeleton.
yeah people like you dont understand the diference beetwen soft counters and hardcounters
They have been saying this nonsense since the launch on OW2 and keep making the game even more dependent on counters. OW1 never had this problem. It had the opposite one - everyone using the same heroes.
There is literally no tank that dva can hard counter.
It is actually Zarya who makes her completely useless.
dva directly dont hardcounter x tank, she but hardcounter the enemy dps and all your team will spam you to swap zarya or trolling.
Any tank can counter a dps when they try to solo them. What is your point?
soft and hard counters are a fine line to make because deep down a lot of the considered ‘‘hard’’ counters give the losing side a lot more options than people want to admit (Dva vs Zarya and how Dva can win by abusing high grounds).
Even as a Sym main, I know how to learn how to deal with Pharah. I dont like playing against her, but I understand that this kind of interactions are natural to happen in a game with such a hero diversity as OW. I have adapted, I have learned to play around AND against her both.
But also? To be completely honest? All the devs have done to ‘‘End Hardcounters™’’ is entirely around popular hero main experience. As a Sym main, they have only made my experience against Sym’s hardcounters even worse as we progress through OW2. I have no real investment on seeing ‘‘hardcounters ended’’ because it will come with no/low compensation for any hero considered disposable.
Which is why this whole thing is just nonsense. You cant ‘‘end hardcounters’’ because those hardcounters are heroes played by real people who are just as important as the Dva or DF or Genji players.
this is ajoke. OW1 had to make a whole team swap if you ran into wrong team.
are you always this funny ?