Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it’s not out there.
Sure, I don’t think it’s a full on “DPS mains vs Support mains” war like you seem to think people are calling it, but there’s still plenty of people who have a problem with his current damage output.
People don’t have to make a thread to point out their opinions. If first-post threads were all you were looking for, then you’re missing all the actual debate and discord in the replies that follow, hence why you think not many people have a problem with him.
That could be because those three heroes have been around since launch, whereas Bap is one of the newest heroes, and the problem everyone seems to have with him is the buff he got only about a month ago.
Just saying. Could be a reason for the difference in quantity.
Point out a thread that shows discord and mass people disagreeing. This is the most tame “debate” I’ve ever seen on these forums.
The couple nerf threads I’ve seen has about as many people disagreeing as when someone claims pharamercy or Genji is OP. Yes you have the few that disagree, but there isn’t anywhere near the issue that you guys are claiming it is.
Or I’m going to start claiming that there are Pharamercy and Bastion witchhunts.
I never said anything about a witch hunt. For as honestly stupid as that term is, this isn’t even close to the severity of that.
All I’m saying is that there are enough people disagreeing to warrent response threads, which OP seems to think isn’t the case just because he did 1 10 second search for a specific phrase that may or may not be in the actual post.
I can agree that even just the video itself warrants at least the very least a response thread but there are more “pushback” threads than there even are complaints about Bap in the first place.
I want people to compare this to any other contentious characters. Mercy, Brig, Moira and tell me the level of back and forth and people having heated opinions is anywhere near the same. People are predicting that this will turn into those pasts ones but as of now it’s not even remotely close.
At heart I consider myself a dps main. Though I usually play support in comp. I have no issue with Baptiste at all. Might be because I like playing him a lot.
I don’t know any of the maths behind his damage, but it doesn’t seem to be overbearing. Plus he has to aim.
In my defense, no I don’t think he’s fine. But I don’t think I’ve ever made judgements on balance based on others alone. Note, I said he was broke a full month ago.
I do think he needs a Nerf. But in the same way I think widow does.
Just because they aren’t easy for the masses doesn’t mean a hero should be so strong to compensate.
Thats just because its been heavy shield/double shield meta. The only people who should have even close to high damage are Reaper, Sigma and Moira, MAYBE Doomfist
When those people are majorly being disagreed with? I frankly think it’s pretty shortsighted to label any dissent as a “witchhunt” especially when it’s in an extreme minority.
If you have like 40 people(made up number) in a thread and only 5 or 6 people are calling for Baptiste nerfs then no that does not count as a witchhunt whatsoever.
The entire point is that you guys are greatly exaggerating and trying to label a small group as some huge wave of support for him to be nerfed. It’s just not true. There are far more people claiming baptiste is being witchhunted than there are even people “witchhunting” and with each successive topic of “Bap is being witchhunted!” you guys make your imaginative perceived enemy even larger.
Pales in comparison to the amount of threads that claim he is being witch hunted. Also most of those threads literally have like 0-5 likes. You can’t use a few people to try to prove a point when the overwhelming consensus is trending in the opposite direction.
I’m not saying that literally no one has asked for him to be nerfed. I’m saying the few people that have don’t equal up to the “THE SKY IS FALLING EVERYONE HATES BAP AND IS ASKING FOR HIM TO BE NERFED CONSPIRACY!!!111!!!”.
I think people are getting confused between people calling for Bapt nerfs and people just trying to prove power creep exists.
Heros like Solider have gone from being strong and well balanced to being very weak even though he’s gotten little changes. To the point were supports are able to do his job and so much more.