The Anger Around the PTR Mercy Buffs Explained


#659

Cowering in a corner doesn’t sound fun, its a good thing I never did that.

Fun being subjective doesn’t mean the majority of Mercy mains enjoy Valkryie, it means there are some that enjoy it.


#660

Fact is mercy is the most played hero off all times so more people have an opinion on the matter does not mean everyone shares that opinion now does it? If every mercy player wants a revert i am not stopping them but good luck in staying in higher ranks on pre valk mercy cause she was an outright troll pick back than what i think most are forgetting you can’t have it both ways guys.


#661

That is not how you play Mercy. Also, is one specific example of something that’s unfun. Cherry-picking often does devalue your argument so I’d refrain from doing it. :blush:

Hiding counters itself. I’ll let Titanium explain the rest. :blush:

Blizzard have made changes before regarding fun and unfun. With that in mind, subjectiveness is not a good enough argument. Also, a large number of players still find her unfun. That should be addressed and shouldn’t be ignored. :slight_smile:

I, as a GM Mercy main since season 3, will have to disagree here. :blush: If you’re good at Mercy, you get rewarded with a good ultimate. If you’re bad at Mercy, you’ll have a good ultimate but you’ll end up making it bad. :slight_smile:

Assuming that it were to come back, we can fix this problem by giving it buffs. :blush:


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:shaved_ice::chocolate_bar:

Spreading positivity and ice cream, one Mercy at a time.

#662

I would rather be a troll pick than be boring.


#663

If the entire mercy fanbase wants a revert i am all for it but i think you are in for a rough period on the ladder. If everyone wants it i think it should happen i am not disputing that but making a hero into a niche/troll pick niche being bastion/pharah support on higher ranks i say knock yourself out but she was abysmal on everything above diamond.


#664

I don’t think a revert is ideal, at all. I want mass Res to return in the form a rework (e.g: mass Res with tweaks, reworked kit and new e ability) :slight_smile:

I don’t think this rework suggestion would suffer such an issue :blush::


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:shaved_ice::chocolate_bar:

Spreading positivity and ice cream, one Mercy at a time.

#665

The “Hide and Rez” myth was exactly that: a myth. There’s a difference between taking cover behind something to avoid a Soldier or McCree ultimate. I’m sure some Mercy players did do that, but it wasn’t common. The more common thing for a Mercy to do was tempo rez, which helped gameplay flow quite frankly.

And no, it doesn’t make you a bad person to like a different character. It’s a video game, and therefore meant to be fun for you whatever way you find it. No one is saying your a bad person for not playing a specific hero.

Mercy is the worst support hero as her healing is incredibly low for what is supposed to be a pure, infinite healing support, her resurrect is also slow and ties her down to a spot for 1.75 seconds. Her ultimate is just a spectator tool for me and a lot of other Mercy players. She doesn’t have much utility in the current meta either since it’s more about burst healing than anything else: which Mercy does not have.


#666

Curious though you say utility and you say tempo ressing but ress is an ability making her temporess just like her old did only with a bit more comms needed the shout to a tank hey keep an eye on me ressing “insert random hero” which i think is a good thing forcing people to communicate.

So what utility would you like her to have?


#667

mercy mains will never be happy
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#668

There’s a lot of outrage about Valk but it seems like Blizzard is doubling down on it with this buff showing us they intend to see it through.
One reason of its hate is that it’s ineffective but after a few more buffs to make it actually work number wise, I think we’ll see less complaints.
We’ll always have the she’s not fun squad but after the numbers show she’s in a good spot, the devs will finally wash their hands of her permanently and the remaining unhappy Mercy mains will either leave, move on, or continue complaining on forums but be as relevant as a Symmetra main asking for lock on back.

It’s really only a matter of time. The devs are already marching towards Valk improvements.


#669

Not with that kind of attitude.


#670

She doesn’t have that much utility.

And mind you as to why I responded with tempo resurrects:

If anything the current live version of Mercy encourages “Hide and Rez”.


#671

Can you explain that to me?


#672

People have been complaining she is unfun since 2.0 started, her being balanced again won’t make a difference.


#673

That’s what I already said.


#674

One reason of its hate is that it’s ineffective but after a few more buffs to make it actually work number wise, I think we’ll see less complaints.

You also said that.


#675

I think it can be taken quite literally. A Mercy goes to Resurrect someone but has to hide because of the 50% movement speed reduction and the 1.75 second cast time that is extremely sensitive as to how far away you are. If you don’t hide during the Resurrect, you can be killed easily.

Not to mention it also allows for that “Mercy stops healing her team to Resurrect” mentality the Dev team brought up before the rework went live.


#676

Yes, less complaints because Valk is more useable.


#677

Show me a thread of a Mercy appreciative of the Valkryie buff.

Now count the number of threads angry that Valkryie buff is ignoring the point.


#678

As i stated above communicate it with a tank not a problem i think that is a good thing being pushed into communicating if you have to hide for it you are clearly not doing that.