Thank You Blame The Controller

I think you’re confusing Twitter followers, Twitch viewers, and Youtube subscribers with disciples.

Some of these people have channels because they see or play the game at a high level and they do a good job breaking it down for others that may not have spent the time or have the same amount of experience; it doesn’t mean everything they say or do is correct 100% of the time and it doesn’t mean anyone that anyone watching is expected to go “spread the good word” elsewhere.

Also, we’ve seen all kinds of balance ideas posted here, from minor tweaks to full-blown hero reworks and it’s almost all fallen on deaf ears. Only recently have the devs even started implementing the balance ideas we’ve been requesting for years, and that resulted in quite a few “OW is the best it’s ever been” videos and articles. Buffing tankiness and sustain is just undoing all that good work, hence the Brig nerf.

People have traded in their critical thinking skills for tribalism. Attribute anything you don’t like to some faceless group, then accuse anyone you disagree with of being part of said group.

How many threads do we see here daily with someone accusing/blaming an entire role or rank for something? “Oh you like to play ___________ heroes? Well you’re what’s wrong with this game and you couldn’t possibly understand a __________ player.” It’s like crazy person madlibs.

There are enough of those people to poison most conversations that occur here on the forums. It’s the difference between “I mostly have experience playing support and my opinion is…” and “I am a support player and you DPS players are ruining the game.” Not only have they revealed that they self-identify as a specific role/hero (super weird), but they twist their lack of experience with the other roles and heroes into some sort of empowerment because they reside in the “safety” of a group.

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Disregards low ranks for their opinion on High rank, sure.
But don’t disregard them entirely. Even if OW is balanced from top down, low ranks should still have a fairly balanced game.

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Well, I didn’t bother with the forum opinion on him, but when I hear and see proof of him deleting criticism comments about his content, I know he’s just another one.

I completely agree with him, and he’s very right about not listening to a lot of streamers/content creators. People very easily get a massively inflated sense of self. Just listening to their “how to get out of Bronze” advice truely shows how utterly clueless they actually are, and how sheltered their perspective is.

You’ll notice that people like Samito only ever point to anecdotal evidence, and complain. There’s never any actual justification for the balance changes they suggest. The more Blizz feed into those egotists, the more vindicated they will feel. It’s a feedback loop that Blizzard causes.

They watch it for fun, I watch it to understand what the META is and the different strategies they use.

OWL is a lot different then what meets the eye

Emongg doesnt have good mechanics
Neither does Flats
or Redshell
or Fran
or IRP

majority of people in my games dont have insane mechanics, truth is you can climb by just being a smart player.

The SR system is fine

lmao emongg doesnt have good mechanics? and redshell definitely has great mechanics have you watched any of their gameplay ever

T3 subbed to Emongg ive watched both of them.

Emongg has diamond level mechanics but is an extremely smart player

Redshell has Diamond level mechanics on any other hero but lucio

you do realize that mechanics are about how you use your movement and abilities in accordance to your kit and gamesense emongg has some of the best gamesense in that community and his mechanics are all on dva one of the most tech based and mechanical based heroes and yeah hes a lucio one trick doesnt mean his mechanical skill isnt there

Because what works in pro levels with a character’s kit is entirely different from what the average players can get out of a character’s kit.

Pros are playing everything to their most extreme capability, often finding unexpected advantages in combinations/kits that were never meant to play out that way. Removing or changing it though impacts ALL levels, so it’s hard for them to balance a character for both versions of the game because the pros are just not playing the same game we are.

It’s frankly why we clearly need 2 levels of play, where at the highest levels there are balance changes for characters like Widow and Brig that need to be fine tuned for people who are just that good. Otherwise we’re basically saying that pro’s can’t play the game at all, OR, we can’t expect balance as laymen. You can’t have it both ways, that’s what we have now and it’s a hot mess.

Mechanics is really just Aim.

Mechanics is something that can be carried between every rank role and game, cooldown management on D.Va cant be carried like that.

yeah no. mechanics isnt “really just aim” otherwise youd be using that term mechanics is how you use the available mobility and kit that your given an a given hero and knowing what your supposed to be doing on a given role.

No, because good ability management cant be carried between games, mechanics is really purely just aim.

Shroud has INSANE mechanics but cant manage his cooldowns or positioning hence he is platinum.

lmao yeah it can and again no its not mate. shroud has insane aim and thats it he has no common gamesense honestly and he admits to that. the games he knows how to play are like cs and s*** and in those he has crazy mechanics. im telling you mate mechanics are how you use the aiming the physics the movement and the kit in a given game.

So you would agree that mechanics alone cant carry you in Overwatch?

Kit management is mechanics tho… lmao, its decision making

Aim isnt a decision its a skill

no i wouldnt agree. you can have just good aim or just good mechanics and climb in ov. mechanics encompass how well your able to use everything a game gives you and you refuse to actually understand what im telling you

It will continue like this until they rework her repair pack, because she just does too much

she also need more skill ceeling expression because she tends to be fairly meh

although i agree with him that theres a particular group of players that wants brig to be unviable

How come Shroud couldnt climb? like you said, lack of gamesense

Mechanics are not just aim, else people would never use the term mechanics…
Overwatch has 3 main things: Mechanics, Gamesense and Positioning

Mechanics includes aim, cd management, movement and similar things that mostly the input is required.
Gamesense includes map knowledge, character knowledge, ult tracking and other mostly mental things to outplay the enemies.
Positioning is just positioning and knowledge how the enemies that may be able to abuse it

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