Supports are being nerfed.
Now, the ball is in your court to prove it isn’t just a skill issue.
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I hope not. Ball is such a hard tank to work with many times and bad ball players can make the game extremely stressful.
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Tanks complain because if their support looks away for 1 second, they get deleted from the game.
They’re 100% going to be next on the complaint train though for sure. Going to see even more Orisa and Zarya than we already are because they’re the only few tanks who can actually live anymore.
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I disagree a bit. Tanks right now receive most of the damage (4-5 players focusing them) because going after supports is just too risky for most dps and tanks to do. Both in terms of damage they receive but also actual value they can get by going in (support cooldowns and healing for the top few outlasts quite a bit). Outside the dps who can either shred tanks (bastion and torb) or pick off supports quickly from distance (soldier and echo), the game is a slough because you have little choice but to either potentially sacrifice yourself needlessly to buy time for your team to kill the tank or you just go for ending the tank. There is little in between
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There’s literally almost 0 reasons to try to heal your tank, when it requires so much focus and effort.
Why do you think more supports are just doing damage or attacking? There’s 0 reward to healing a tank who dies the moment you have to reload, or look at something else.
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I mean supports absolutely need nerfs. They can do way too much
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No they’ll still complain how Ana and Kiriko literally ruin the game, the forums are mostly full of bronze-gold players so I do not expect them to improve after these set of nerfs.
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Both of them need nerfs. It’s just the flat out truth sorry. Ana and bap more so than kiriko
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Because its easy to do when range isn’t a limiting factor, your hitbox is smaller than most characters (excluding LW ofc) and you have a way to easily escape or outlast sustain damage sources.
Unless Nade loses 100 percent anti. Never be enough
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I’m not disagreeing there I play a ton of Kiriko and think her being nerfed is acceptable but all I’m saying is that players should not expect something like completely removing anti heal from ana.
I feel like Baptiste is only where he is because they gave him buffs for no apparent reason to Immortality field and as my second most played support(originally #1) I feel like the buffs were simply not needed. Maybe tone his damage done a bit too because I really don’t a support should be one tapping tracer.
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My personal opinion is bap lamp is broken and it just always will be as long as it exists. Bap can literally tank, heal, and do massive DPS all in one kit. It’s insane. I’m a ball main and it’s not as big of a deal for me bc I can boop him out of his lamp usually
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See if I play DPS, I feel good getting elims
If I play tank, I feel good creating space and holding the line
Support is not allowed to outheal damage, or have utility to negate kills = I just do damage myself now because nothing else I offer is worth doing in most situations
That’s the problem we’ve been having; Illari is proof of that. She literally only heals and does damage, but in such a strong way, people don’t like it. Her utility is a 35hps auto target turret. She doesn’t make people invincible, she doesn’t boost damage, she doesn’t increase movement speed.
All she does is heal an do damage; and people are not happy about her doing either
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As a tank main, I wasn’t just complaining about supports. The problem is bigger than that. Bastion for example was a big part of the problem. And heroes like Mei and Sym and Torn are a bit rough as a tank. And it isn’t all supports. I hope the devs realize that. It’s predominantly Ana, discord, Bap, and a little bit Lifeweaver. But many other supports are perfectly fine IMO.
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Illari broke the dam when it came to the issue. She does a lot of effective burst damage to the point she is a dps with support benefits. The pylon, as it currently is, acts as a permanent tertiary support or a mercy pocket (when you add the support passive to it) during duels. Once she became better at dps than most nonmeta dps, people took notice. Kiriko started getting heat due to how easy it became in season 6 to keep people alive with suzu and her escape being extremely strong without being able to punish or counterplay it.
Bap didn’t change much, but the fervor and the dev’s ignoring issues people were having pulled him into the ring of complains. He has regen field that fills him up, high healing and high dps on top of lamp. Ana has always had complaints with her nade and sleep (never changed like zen’s discord). But every other support is getting pushed through the ringer because the devs aren’t doing anything about the supports who are essentially acting like brig 1.0.
I main Tracer on DPS and he is by far the most frustrating support for me to deal with especially when he doesn’t have bot tier aim. Even when trying to duel him on my support main which is Kiriko he is a pest, I’d go as far to say he is the best duelists in the game.
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You speak like you don’t play tank in which case, don’t talk about the role then.
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I can complain all I want. I earned lifetime rights to it after all you people got Hog clapped. And I will cash out at every available opportunity.
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I hate when people bring up Kiriko when she has some of the worst stats of any support in the game currently
If all these salty people get Kiriko nerfed, I am going to be livid and go on a rampage against any DPS who has anywhere near her pickrates
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It’s cool supports will stop playing support and start queuing up for dps again and dps will whine about queue times and the circle jerk will go on and on.
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