and then you see your tanks is plat 3 and the enemy tank is dia 3
Your tank got hard diffed by the matchmaker.
Gold 3 vs plat 3 is not much of a difference, but plat 3 vs dia 3 is a much, much wider skill gap.
Seeing a big skill dif in the tank role is not rare in unranked.
I get it, you need a wider matchmaking, but in 5v5 tanks should not be that far apart in skill.
Tank players already are rare and an easy target for blame and harassment.
You need to make this post on X.
If you really want to get attention.
What does it even matter? The tank was lower ranked, so what? That means you team was better on average. If you lose with the better team, you deserve to lose? Like, it aināt really up for debate.
This is mostly because theres so few Tank players for the matchmaker to pair with, because no one wants to play the roleā¦
Because its so garbage to play.
Are your supporting the tank? Choosing heroes who synergise well? Countering the other teams tank? No i bet not, its easier to just blame the tank
Read my post. I am blaming the matchmaker and if the experience is so bad for tank players, we will end up with even less tank players
Match making sucks for sure but if youre doing the stuff i mentioned you can easily put your tank on a level playing field if the other team is not supporting theirs
But you donāt need a wider matchmaking? Because these are literally the most populated ranks? And itās only one (1) tank which the 5v5 assumedly āfixedā. So thereās no excuse for the difference tbh
5v5 fixed nothing, of anything it drove more tank players away so theres even fewer now
Well I am someone who quit tanking and started playing DPS/Support. So slight sarcasm mightāve applied
and yet their mmr can be similar (the part that the MM actually uses)
or the diamond player can be smurfing
or there could be grouping involved to warp things
or crossplay could be involved
there are various reasons why the game might match them together 
and no the game does not default to tank diff
btw this also happens in the other 2 rolesā¦dont think that matters there? sure theres 2 of the other roles but you dont think 1 ādiamondā dps going against a āgoldā dps isnt going to matter just because the other 2 dps are similar rank?
Iād have to disagree on thatā¦ you canāt fool anyone with these pretty mid takes you have, as Iāve observed so far. Iām sure you can do much better.
In the current meta game and balance, the tank player is worth aproximately around 1.75 of another role. It takes coordination and broadly at least one support + a dps + a tank to either take down a tank or his source of healing during a teamfight.
Now, If you have a gold-platāish toddler (Itās basically the same rank) playing against a mid diamond tank, the difference in map knowledge, mechanics and basic positioning is huge and the mid diamond tank will absolutely take advantage of that. Now that theyāve given so much power to the tank role plus the ability to get so much value out of counterswapping, itās almost impossible for the 'plat team" to do anything besides playing mystery heroes or desperatrly trying to hardcarry the tank, each of them having to basically win 1v2ās or 1v3ās consecutively because the team is at a major disadvantageā¦ If you go higher up the ranks, it probably evens out a bit because the macro gameplay of tanks is a bit more in line.
The tank role is starving out even though theyāve gigabuffed them, but to be honest, itās a quite logical consequence.
Even if they had a higher ranked team overall, the tank is the main initiator, space creator, peeler, position defender etc. You canāt have that happen in a game that claims to be competitive. So either, the matchmaker is fundamentally flawed or the power level thatās being canalized into one player/role for it to function is doodoo. pick and choose.
Because games are made by the tank dude, the other 4 people are just minions trying to keep the raid boss alive. Die the tank , lose the fight
Dude Iām not goin with a crazy playstyle of a Hammond player because Iām garbage with heroes who āācan support himāā a game where you gotta pick a teamcomp around a single char is a wrong design as hell. Also rank diff play the main role
So youre saying the tank needs to play around you? Seems a bit hypocritical to me
The skill gap is the same itās just more apparent with certain gaps. Not because the gap is bigger but because certain things simplyā¦ Click. They are one division apart, they are X deviation away from each other.
Statistically the same skill gap, practically different.
No, I say a game where you gotta play around a single char and you canāt be a bit independent is horrible, this. And if you put a diamond tank vs a gold one, the diff is way too huge that no teamplay can make any difference.
This! All of it.
If you have 0 space to work with. because your tank is overwhelmed, what do you gonna do?
You canāt flank, because you instantly have the whole enemy team on you.
You are not a god tier widow who can dink the entire team
I can support main tank on different DPS and help him to maintain space and help to create an opening, but the tank is the one who makes the move.
If you want to call it a skill issue on my side, than sorry that I am not a Master player, only a diamond player.
Why is the diffrence between plat and dia so much higher?
Dia has a much, much stronger coordination and teamplay than plat. A dia and plat game are two fundamental different experiences.
Thatās the major difference between metal ranks and above.
And youve hit the nail on the head as to why Tank is such a terrible role, DPS/Supports cant be indepenfant now, Tanks cannot.
This is the same on any role
You can compensate for a dud on the dps role, did it myself plenty of times, be it on tank, on DPS or even support.
Its all completely situational, of a tank tries to carry a bad DPS by focusing the opposite DPS who is diffing them the. The enemy tank is left unchecked and then people cry tank diff when in realisty the tank just cant do enough because theres only one.
A good tank is only as good as their team.