Overwatch 2 Beta: Week One Developer Blog - News - Overwatch (playoverwatch.com)
“Our reasoning for some of the other nerfs was that Symmetra is already a statistically strong hero, and we feared these changes alone would push her over the edge.”
Look Devs, if you don’t want Sym to do same DPS as the Avg DPS, but 66% less then Avg DPS.
Then Devs you should stop keeping Sym as DPS. That is your own Reasoning.
At this point they should just divide damage in two again and call it a day. At least sym, mei, bastion, torb, hanzo, widow would effectively make sense on the game. That wouldn’t even mess with queue times.
Damage means mostly offense heroes tbh on their categorization. Go for kills.
Either that or just give a shot as tank or do orisa treatment and see how it goes.
1-1-1-2 could be the path, because right now they don’t have any idea to define damage and put the old defense heroes to work with their damage path.
Beta hasn’t updated yet.
But this quote alone, shows how lost they are.
The most problematic thing on damage are the old defense heroes. They just should revert it entirely and work around it. Offense already has their space and purpose with less barriers.
Just make defense actually be important and meaningful. At least they could have some sense of what actually folks should do and how folks were supposed to play.
Right now folks are playing almost as if they’re playing deathmatch, both on OW1 but also OW2.
Merging the role never fixed any problem on low pick rate heroes or purpose of those defense heroes being there. They’re not weak, just their abilities are suited to something different of damage which in fact is more related to offense to begin with.
Dividing 1-1-1-2 would both help them to come up with ideas of passives and meaning of what those 2 roles should do. Tanks already have meaning, supports healing and utility if moira’s changes pass. Damage just split and focus on what each part should do.
“Statistically strong hero”
There is no “defense” anymore. It maybe made sense back then but especially now there is no reason.
Sym is the only real “defense” hero that did not get a complete change for the better. Teleport and sentries need to go. To support or DPS. One or the other but builders dont work in OW2… and I love them. Torb is good. Sym needs also a rework to make her more flexible.
Where are they getting their statistics??
And in what world is she already a statistically strong hero??
This just reinforces the notion that they are entirely disconnected from their own game.
Hahaha, well she isn’t weak. Her win rate is really high, sadly her pick rate is also really low. So, folks who pick her often know when and how they doing, otherwise her win rate wouldn’t be that high. But nice meme .
Sadly symmetra itself is too complex and more chess paced. Similarly to most of old defense heroes, just her abilities are more related to planning ahead and prediction. Most heroes/players just spawn, go near the point, pew pew, die and reapeat.
It’s not really all that complicated.
She’s got some major design flaws, and the thing that’s holding her back is sentry bombs.
Rip that bandaid off, if you want real fixes.
Its like you have no idea how this game is even played bro
Because she’s only chosen on Lijiang and she’s really good there, that’s about it.
They need to abolish this niche hero model. One-tricks wouldn’t be nearly as much of an issue if every hero was a generalist.
Devs are in dream land still if they are talking about turrets still.
No, Devs just making band aid changes to just stall again.
They are not taking Sym or their own views of the hero seriously still.
Niche heroes are perfectly fine and a definite necessity.
I challenge you to name one other hero that’s actually niche.
To be fair they have been abolishing the niche hero model. Looking at Bastion and Sombra Reworks.
But they seem to struggle a lot with themshelves when it comes to Sym.
How do you define niche? Because otherwise I’m going to guess you’ll move the goalposts if I say something like Bastion, Junkrat, etc. And are you talking right this moment, or across all time? Because Sym even went through a period of time where she was played in OWL. Metas come and go with favored heroes, some get more time, some get less. If you think Sym is weak now, don’t play her?
It almost looks like they just dont even want anyone to play her. Shes hardly used but really good/annoying on some points
So they nerf her, get ow2 out. worry about these heroes that dont fit anymore later/never
Sym has the highest WR in the game.
The problem is that she’s very situational and typically only played in the situations where she excels. They’re trying to make her more generally viable, but it should go without saying that as she becomes a good pick in more situations, she can’t bring that 60%+ WR with her into them, and her WR can’t increase further in the situations where she’s already strong.
That’s where nerfs come in. They were always inevitable. But Blizz haven’t gotten the balance right yet. Maybe they should just let her shoot through TP. 
I mean when Sym is used in OWL, they ban her.
(Still can’t believe that happen this year.)
why are niche heroes a necessity? they also removed sym’s niche almost entirely (she was best on 2cp and then lijang which is all that’s left)
Maybe if the niche heroes were absolutely better than other heroes when in their niche they would be fine, but fact of the matter is outside of the quick tp to point for lijang, a cassidy or ashe, for example, will outshine symmetra always. Like the only thing that makes symmetra good for that map is TP, without it or if her team just ignores it she’s utterly useless