Symmetra & Doomfist were nerfed

Same can be said for Moira too as she was the only support that could heal and damage through all those shields and Coalescence was a good counter to double shields.

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You’re a hypocrite.!

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I did mention her as I am aware of other heroes who were chosen only because they could do their job while in this meta. I just don’t recall Moira getting major changes or nerfs besides her healing nerf (which idk if that was during her time apart of the meta)

With all due respect, but I tried to make you see urself.
U should also notice that you’re a clown, stuck in w/e rank you are, barking here about how “low ranks matter”.
No wonder I’ve been told not to argue with you, this was the last time.
Pisslow.

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You forgot to mention hanzo also.

Same as I said about Genji, that situation was not caused by Double Shield as much as Blizzard’s inability to balance in general. In this situation, Symmetra and Doomfist (And furthermore Mei later on) were nerfed because they benefit from the Tank Meta, not because said heroes were strong. Whether Hanzo deserved to be nerfed is a whole different situation. Whether Doomfist and Symmetra deserved to be nerfed because the Tanks were so imbalanced is just a no brainer, they did not.

yeah I think we need to put garbage players who can’t figure out basic strategies like ‘don’t go where the Sym turrets are’ in the trash.

Because it takes oh so much skill to avoid a short ranged and weak turret that you just can’t pull it off, right? Oh no, it’s that you’re lazy and don’t wanna use your brain, gotcha.

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And things like a mercy-pocketed pharah or ashe or widow or soldier aren’t cheesy? Getting punched to death by a guy hiding on a roof isn’t cheesy? Mc-rightclick? Wrecking ball’s entire kit? Random Hanzo arrows, stray Moira orbs, emp into hack, the list goes on. But you could always just jump on Symm with a Winston and she dies almost immediately. All these other heroes have always been stronger than her, even during the only two weeks she was ever meta. Nobody has been as consistently underpowered and overnerfed like Symm, in any hero-based game that I’ve seen. Y’all just love to hate her and you should say it cause we been knew.

Nope. She was nerfed because after tracking beam bug skyrocketed her and Zarya’s DPS.

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False flagging is a scum move.

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I feel like if Sym got all her DBL Shield nerfs (and they were massive) reverted she still wouldn’t be a good pick. Much better than now, yes, but was only good because she happened to counter the meta, and there aren’t many shields these days.

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Sure they are and annoying and mercy pocket is something that should be reconsidered when they are trying to reduce hitscan damage. The problem with Symm as that her kit when all put together is cheesy and annoying. She has teleport, big orbs ideal for spamming choke and a microwave which is either useless or OP and rarely in between, and then she also has 3 turrets which may not do much but when spammed get pretty frustrating. It’s a lot of stuff.

She needs to be looked at by the devs to work out how to make her less cheesy/annoying and at the same time more fun to play with and against. My original comment to keep her in the trash is assuming they keep her current kit and just fiddle with numbers. If they did some modifications to her abilities or swapped 1 of them for something else I’m sure they could bring her up to scratch, but reworks are not their strong point from what I read on the forums (although previous reworks were before my time in OW).

And stop false flagging my original reply - alhough nice that someone in Blizz got to read my opinion and decide it was ok to unblock it. Thanks for bringing their attention to it.

Yes, it wouldn’t fix all of her glaring problems, but it made no sense that she was nerfed.

That argument sucks.

Literally any hero can “spam” the choke with bullets and all of them have faster attacks than sym orbs. Like what are you supposed to with a choke Not shoot at it??

Also if you think they’re going to teleport to point then shoot the teleporter lol. Or you know play defensively on point.

Gosh some players act like this game is soooo hard, but I guess bronze lives matter :tipping_hand_woman:

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Is that why they nerfed literally everything in her kit except team TP cheese?

Also FYI slapping 25 shields on sym doesn’t change the points raised in this thread

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how could you possibly buff Doom without making him even stronger than he is now, to the point that he becomes a must-pick once again?

You don’t have to buff anyone just rebalnce them to make them feel better and fair to play

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I have so much to say about you that I just can’t even type it all. It’s flooding out of my mind so fast it just overloaded everything and I have no idea where to even start.