Literally every single compensation nerfs but basic buffs that she should have gotten years ago is entiremy misplaced or downright unneeded.
Primary changes dont solve anything. You just removed the mechanic with no real compensation since that 30 more ammo doesnt solve its slow on doing any real damage.
Secondary projectile speed is nice, but all those compensation nerfs make it barely acceptable buff. Its dps is now absolutely garbage, to the point Mercy peashooters do more damage with decent aim than this.
Sentries did not need nerfs at all. Not for such a minimal, meager improvement.
Above all, TP did not need those nerfs either. Reminder than its cooldown was increased for the Infinite TP change, as a compensation nerf. This change effectively does nothing if you are going to increase the cooldown to the point it doesnt really do anything.
In fact, the TP cooldown change is a nerf in uptime if you destroy the TP right after using it.
Removing infinite TP should have been met with a complete, no compensation nerfs buff, not with a bag of so many compensation nerfs its becomes worse.
None of this solves her survivability. TP is still awful to use in combat while having even higher downtime for personal use. Its not combat survivability, while you increased her delays on her damage. Insane.
I cant believe the dev team can be so apathetic, malicious or downright incompetent.
That’s literally what the DPS people have been asking for. It’s obvious they can’t give you that without compensations. They can’t make her a true DPS while TP is a thing.
And expecting a competent DPS hero with a weapon that isn’t suited for the DPS class is some weird brain gymnastics.
That’s DPS Sym and you asked for it.
Now be happy.
Thats what I said a long time ago. They have to decide if they want to embrace DPS or support/utility with Sym. They got a few steps in the DPS direction. If Sym players dont like it then maybe its time for Sym to come home. As a support.
One can still get much more value out of hitscan characters or even Torb. Symmetra is garbage, but at least they’ve glammed her up, right? Go girl, give us nothing!
I’d say they made the Joker skin for the wrong character.
Sym has always, since beta, closer to Torbjorn and Mei than to any support. She wants to be supported more than she can support others, and this is something that has been a thing since beta.
So shut up I am tired of people who barely know anything about Sym thinking she was a support because of a stupid and useless label that did not really represent how she actually played.
Listen literally nobody is happy about the changes. There is no reason to lash out at anyone for thinking this all should have gone a completely different direction, even if you feel strongly against their ideas.
She was a support because of the utility she provided. Faster and new ways for team mates with the teleport and area denial, slow and information where people are with the sentries.
Just because you think she should be a DPS that does not mean that she has to be one. She is split. We will give up on her when teleporter is gone because thats her key stone as a support. Unless this thing goes away you will always have to see us coming and say “but what if support?”
Deal with it. Maybe you dont agree but its not out of the question.
I am tired of the ‘‘you stupid people wanting to make Sym a DPS when she was my support healer queen yas slay’’ people. I am legit tired of people thinking that Sym has anything to do with healing thematically or historically while pretending that everyone that doesnt drink their percolate of an argument is an ignorant 3.0 FotM player and that they are the ~true OGs~.
Utility is not exclusive to the support role and has never been. In fact, around half the support role doesnt have utility. 3 supports literally have healing and, damage and more damage for someone else as their butter and bread.
[flushing toilet sounds] there goes your entire argument. funny how that works.
MoonRiver I am not saying anything against you personally, just all the people having this ‘‘well you told you so, ready to come back crawling to the RIGHT side now?’’ annoying attitude.
A lot of people who want Symmetra to heal are just support mains who used to like her back when she was a support. She’s a DPS now and should stay as such. They just need to work with her a bit more to get her just right. They just keep trying things that make no sense and doesn’t solve her issues.
Yes I understand that now, my apologies. Just keep an open mind I guess? I dunno, we all could argue all day about what Symmetra should be, but at the end of the day we have no say in it, so I feel like it’s a waste of energy.
These are some of the biggest thonker changes to Symmetra I’ve seen in a while. One of the largest issues Symmetra has is that her damage is inconsistent and easy to kite/avoid–their solution was to moderately buff her RMB velocity and nerf everything else? On top of that, her teleporter remains incredibly clunky to use and it lacks the speed and efficiency of other mobility skills–yes, it can potentially move the whole team, but maybe they should be revisiting how entry/exits are made and look at how Wraith works in Apex.
Support Symmetra is a meme and it was terrible each time it was tried. If you come up with a sufficiently compelling support hero kit that uses beams and hard light, let Blizzard add that as a new hero instead of trying to turn Symmetra into this weird heal-beam hero that only heals with turrets or whatever. Her kit requires such a fundamental change in how it works that making her a support is basically new hero territory.
The problem I have is that a lot of other DPS can do so much more damage without having to set up like Symmetra does. She has to charge and do all these extra steps to pull out the same damage numbers as someone like Hanzo for example.
