I was really hoping one thing they would address in Overwatch 2 is how Taxi Sym completely ruins one of their most common map types.
Giving an entire team the ability to reach point first defeats the entire right-left dynamic of the map.
This isn’t to say she’s OP by default, but there isn’t any other hero/map relationship where a hero breaks the map quite like this.
Also this same issue applies to Lucio and Junker Queen as well, just not as much. It’s weird how the devs decided Wrecking Ball being able to leave spawn quickly was problematic, but one hero delivering their entire team to the objective is fine.
If Sym didn’t have TP she would be the worst hero in the game by far.
Maybe if she had a Translocator-like ability it would help, but TP’s ability to extend her turret length and move someone around with her is her only way to carry a game. To make up for that would require ANOTHER rework and I don’t think Sym mains could handle that.
Junker Queen can shout and speed her team up, Lucio can speed boost the entire way, Symm can TP, several heroes - tanks, DPS, and supports - can use abilities to get there faster…
I don’t see the issue with that. And if she shines in KoTH, why is that bad? Abilities and utility should be providing an advantage. It’s not uncommon in this game for certain heroes to shine in certain map types.
Like, I understand the frustration of not having an even dynamic between 2 teams fighting for the point, but Symm is accessible for both sides. It’s not like they can’t use that themselves. I find that more often than not, if one side has a Symm that is TPing on point, the other team will swap to her the next round to do the same.
Sym is already a highly specialized character, who struggles on maps outside her expertise. So, she loses out in overall gameplay to more general purpose heroes. To be balanced in that position, she should offer a significant advantage when she is being used in her specialty.
So by your logic no ability can ever be problematic no matter what.
That’s true. Heck, she has TP and is currently one of the worst in the game. But I don’t see why a hero being bad overall means they aren’t allowed to be changed.
I mentioned both Lucio and JQ in my post, saying they have the same issue, but not quite as bad. The conflict is that KOTH is designed to give each team a chance to reach point, and point tends to offer certain advantages. So the issue is that certain heroes surpass this map structure for their entire team.
Big deal. Eventually your team will throw and treat it like a death match (and fail at getting kills) while the other team focuses on the objective. KOTH is awful the very moment you play it at least until they remove rounds from it.
I guess I’m not understanding why that’s a problem and ruins it when the other team can also run a Symmetra? Some heroes excel greatly at certain modes vs others. I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
nah. i hope you realize that every hero is supposed to have a niche, from gameplay to map modes to team comps, they excel at over other heroes. KOTH has always been sym’s niche mode, where she performs better than other modes.
that’s like saying lucio is problematic at choke points simply because he can speedboost the team through a chokepoint.
No, they aren’t. Many heroes don’t have an explicit niche. And the heroes who do have a niche, tend to be the worst overall.
No, it’s apples and oranges. Symmetra’s design was never specifically created for KOTH maps. How she affects KOTH maps is a byproduct of her design that the devs don’t want to fix.
Sym went through 3 different reworks. Sym’s current build is vastly different from her original planned design. And you’re right, maybe the niche of her KOTH advantage is a byproduct, but clearly the devs don’t want to fix it because it fits their idea of her.
It’s not game breaking. Does it give the team an advatange? Yes. Is it OP? Why fix what ain’t broke? Just cause it feels bad to play against? News flash, half the heroes in the game has some form of ability that feels bad to play against subjectively depending on the player. I don’t see a problem with Sym on KOTH maps, for example. And it seems a majority of the players don’t really care either because the reality is that while the ability gives the team initial advantage during the match, it offers little during a fight. It’s a trade off. And a majority of the players acknowledge that.
Being a team TP slave is not a reliable way to carry a team. You cant force people through the TP, and getting cooperative teammates should be empowering, not mandatory for basic impact.
I agree that she isnt unique in that aspect, in fact she is kinda whatever in half the KotH maps.
But she is certainly a worse hero for being attached to team TP. Its broken and it DOES need to be removed and all of Syms power that is both hostage to this thing and removed over the years for the sake of keeping it out of OWL, returned to her kit.
Taxi is the only thing she is even semi good at and she’s only good at it because the 4 members of her team while actually do something since her beam does tickle damage unless people are feeding, her turrets dont slow you and can be killed by a single attack pretty much across all heroes in all roles, and she has an orb that you can see coming from a different state