Sym OW2 decisions shows Favoritism and "maybe" Prejudice

It is not truly clear why.

Does anyone else find it sus :face_with_raised_eyebrow:, that they repeatedly nuke Sym.

Then buff and fix everyone else ?

When was the last time you saw an Awesome Sym Highlight?

I say this out of concern, because I don’t think Devs are aware with themselves on Sym.

And I do hope for better. :innocent:

Agree or Disagree?

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Just limit sentry bombs down to 1x sentry, and start her teleporter on a 5sec cooldown at the start of the round, and it should be pretty easy to buff her.

I pulled this off in gold, still gives me serotonin

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just extend her beam, dont care whats gonna happen with her turrets and teleporter, make her primary feel good to use

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If only it was that easy.

Honestly I don’t know what the Devs really… really want with Sym.

So suggesting buffs on our end is pointless.

But should be clear, Sym needs buffs.

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But it really is that easy.

The Sentry Bombs are holding her back at Low ELO , similar to how Bastion couldn’t get buffs.

And the “5sec of advantage at the start of the round” is holding her back at the OWL level.

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I mean with a pocket and only

1 junkrat that turned around i’ll believe it

Will say ana would’ve died in any rank lul

They never really tried?
Like the issue with bastion was clear, Sentry form is too good in low ranks, in high ranks it’s his only “good” move but is still pretty bad

They should’ve made sentry much much worse but also quicker to change from/to, but make recon significantly better
Instead we just got some ocassional sentry buffs lul

She just got buffs. They’re enough to make her good again in her small niche. But as Sty keeps saying, she seems to be having an identity crisis and doesn’t really fit in.

Sym mains can keep playing her, but I don’t see why anybody else would want to when there’s so many better options

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“It only works randomly at high ELO, or at Low ELO. Maybe sometimes it’s strong at very specific objectives on a map”.

Sure sounds a lot like OW1 Bastion.

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More “taxi”, less DPS… isn’t a buff.

More famine and “maybe” feast.

(Encourages Feeding more likely)

(If teammates were not already throwing because of Sym pick)

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No infinite TP means less taxi out of spawn and forcing the bad Sym players to actually use her TP as a personal mobility tool.

the orb damage nerf is okay considering they move 2x faster now. Yes there’s less kick, but you’re landing a lot more orbs than you would’ve before the buffs.

Though maybe 90 is a tad too small, 100 would be better

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I said OW2 for a reason man.

Sym plays different.

Stevo has some games on his youtube channel of eating it up as the new sym. sadly I only got to play a few games with the midcycle patch though :pensive:

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Giving her a couple of meters doesnt fix anything. That is still Zarya range, with 1/4 of her survivability and a bad charge up mechanic. While using her other damage sources basically drops your beam to level 2.

If you want to make her beam good to use, fix her lack of survivability and remove the awful level 1 beam damage.

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Stevo himself being a t500 player doesnt fix the issues Sym has. Like, it doesnt fix that the hero is mediocre to weak for the 99.9% of the playerbase.

Bastion didnt stop being a bad, poorly designed hero in clear need of a rework just because someone in t500 onetricked him up there.

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I agree with you. Jester was saying he hasn’t seen any awesome highlights on new Sym and I was pointing him to Stevo’s vids

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Idk what people do not understand by now.

Sym is not a likeable hero… Never was. More people hate her than like her.
Her design went through numerous changes and never felt satisfying for everyone.

Blizz has not many resources to put into a hero like sym when pretty much no one cares or does anyone hear a pro player complaining he cannot play sym anymore?

When symm as a hero had a fanbase behind her like mercy blizz would spend more time… But for blizz its way easier to let her live in the rubbish league and spending their resources on popular heroes or new ones.

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Honestly the Sym highlight was more of an off topic thing that my sister pushed when Sis helped me write this topic yesterday over the phone.

(Work been rough this week in 100 degree weather.)

Yeah I don’t get why they keep coming back to Sym and leave other bad heroes to rot.

After 2 reworks they should have focused on reworking other heroes and come back to Sym after some time. But no, they keep coming back to Sym. The favoritism for Sym is blatant as the prejudice for the others.

it’s all due to her potential damage even though she has more than clear weaknesses , a full stacked sym with level 3 beam is stronger than any hero in game barring possibly a sniper but they’re very aim intensive while sym and her turrets aren’t plus sym herself is a good counter to snipers because of her ult

all in all she feels weak because getting her into those circumstances is really really hard so if devs were to buff her they would hardly increase anything without compensation nerfs as we saw during beta 2

she’s the ramp up hero, she’s always been and for game design this means that her baseline must be weak, until they decide to relieve her of this archetype, she’ll remain weak at lvl 1 with no turrets and particularly broken at lvl 3 with 3 turrets

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