Perhaps a 2-3min cooldown on hero swaps. so sick of winning one fight on tank and getting 5 man counter swapped. its makes tank esp super unfun.
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im sick of tanks acting like they the only mfs in game that get countered. you already sacrifice perks and ult charge, what else do you want? Half hp?
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nooooooo nonononono ooooooh nononononono 
please do not put this idea in peoples heads
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They’re not the only ones that get countered, but it’s usually them.
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You might get 1 enemy to counter your dps or support pick but a tank often gets half or the whole team.
It’s baked into 5v5 format. Since tank is 1 hero representing the entire role, its twice as effective to counter the tank. Everyone and their grandma does it.
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Solution is 6v6. Go play that, is more fun for tanking. Counter swapping tank is less impactful than in 5v5.
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I take “What likely never happened” for 500.
I uaed to think this, then i realised its just one one dps in the lobby to troll the game. Maybe if RQ comes back properly
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You talking qp or comp?
Comp is better for consistent team comps.
And if it’s qp, 1 3 2 works half the time. But is rare for me to not get 222 anyway. Or 213.
And a crappy dps happens often in 5v5 too. Let alone many 5v5 games come down to which team has the better support players. Tanks either get full countered, or you get a weaver/mercy comp or similar. Either way its miserable. I’d rather suffer those supports in 6v6 than 5v5.
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I am. Ain’t nobody going to bother countering YOU.
The penalty for switching heroes is already enough.
In the end its a game you can play too, should your team refuse to swap … then the L is deserved.
In my experience both are just as bad.
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A delay won’t work. Imagine you come out on Hog and the other team comes out on Hog. Now the other guy switches Orisa and has a 2 min CD. You go back to spawn and switch Zarya. Now that guy has to play against his counter for nearly 2 mins. Once the time is up he swaps and then you can just swap right away too.
There would have to be some other rules around it so you don’t lose by swapping first.
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Don’t worry, soon enemy teams will be able to 6-man counterswap you in 1-3-2.
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I mean, if D.Va is eating all the projectiles of this world of course we’re gonna go Moira and Symmetra…
I guess you weren’t there cause it was already a thing way back when the 5v5 wasn’t a thing. You sound funny acting like this effects tanks the most. How would you know if you spend your time playing walking simulator because someone is playing the game on a different level than you?
You don’t see people swapping in your games? A couple examples… if you get on Pharah - they swap to hitscan. Widow - they swap to sombra/reaper,monkey etc. Genji - swaps to sym or mei. Dva - they swap to brig. Tracer - They on tjorb next
The ENTIRE game is like this.
Hero swapping is the game’s core mechanic. Everyone should be encouraged to learn more heroes and swap frequently, not the other way around.
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Losing ult charge and perks is the downside of frequent swapping.
considering the game is built around swapping mid-match, it doesn’t need to worse than that. 2-3 minutes is half the match, at best maybe 1 minute wouldn’t be that bad. There’s no need.
Work on learning how to beat your counter. That’s the only way out of counter swapping madness
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Swapping is the point of this game. You already get punished by loosing ult and perks.
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Another wonderful, stupendous example of why 5v5 not only doesn’t work with 1 tank but is insufferable as team setup to work around.