I’m slowly starting to realize this as a support main. Literally if more healers like Ana and Baptiste are introduced where they have to aim to heal dps characters will be enabled the least. Tanks have fatter hit boxes and are easier to hit meaning they can fully take advantage of that support character as opposed to someone like genji who’s mobility and tiny hit box prevents someone like bap or Ana to take advantage of him (outside of nano boost).
Just a random thought I had.
If you want to add more supports to the game that enable dps character you need to add more supports to the game like lucio, zen, and Mercy.
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Except players as low elos miss anyway, and players at high elos can hit Genji with relative ease. So, what you mean to say, is Aim-dependant heroes enable tanks in Plat.
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When has there ever been a non tank meta that has included Ana…
I’m not saying people above plat will miss with her or bap just that the ones that gain the most benefit out of aim reliant healers are tanks it doesn’t matter what rank you are occasionally you will miss shots. Tanks leases that off chance that you miss.
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Not sure if Baptiste should be lumped in the same boat as Ana, since grenades don’t really require precise aim. I’d liken him more to Moira in terms of precision needed.
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Low skill Ana’s are fine in tank heavy comps. Those Ana’s just hip fire anyways
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I think Beyblade was primarily focused on Reaper and Ana. This was before they removed the speed effect of Nano Boost.
I completely forgot beyblade was a thing oops. Yeah her speed boost on nano sent death blossom reaper flying across the map it was so funny.
Everyone misses, even the best amongst us. Just spend two minutes watching any top 500 Ana and you’ll see it.
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And Moira and Brigitte.
Is what you’re implying.
Correlation does not imply causation. Dive saw very little Ana because she is heavily countered by the heroes that were played in it, not because Anas can’t hit Genji.
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Moira struggles due to lack of utility and Brig is complete trash outside of GOATS now
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Obviously. No one has 100% accuracy. However, Pros and Top 500s will miss considerably less.
Didn’t think I had to spell that one out.
Except Ana has always enabled tank heavy metas even at the highest levels.
I don’t care who you are, you’re gonna have a higher accuracy hitting Reinhardt than Genji. Genji and Tracer evade more fire than the tanks at every level of play.
His grenades are much closer to Zarya’s right click.
Also, something they could impliment is a heaing debuff towards armor. Have armor heal slower than heath in some way.
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I can understand what you are saying but I have a few points to throw out.
First - that isn’t entirely true. Baptiste for example is a support that at times, works best with DPS heroes.
- His Ult feels like the opposite of Ana’s, where it mostly helps long ranged dps heroes rather than Ana’s list of cleave/melee ranged ult targets.
- His immortality field almost demands the enemy to be running a DPS that can burst it down quickly, especially if it is used away from the enemy tanks range.
- His healing grenades are easy enough to land on most DPS heroes.
Second point - I know you are making this post “In defense of DPS against the tyranny of tanks”. I feel you on that but the DPS group is quite vast and most of them are grounded heroes that can easily be hit by Ana or Baptiste.
You know who truly needs help, though? Pharah.
- We only have one tank that can defend her at range (Zarya).
- Mercy is her only source of consistent healing. Zenyatta and Ana can also try and focus her but the nature of her kit often leaves her away from all of the melee ranged supportive abilities in this game. Not to mention, Pharah in the air steals support attention away from other allies in the fight (a Zenyatta not being dived and well away from the fight may be able to manage).
- Other heroes like Genji and Wreckingball of course also feels this pain. These heroes however also have the tools necessary to quickly get healthpacks and re-position themselves back to their team vs Pharah’s options.
So I do agree with the sentiment that we need other types of support (and tank) heroes. Heroes that can protect and heal reliably even while away from the team and fill in the void for distal heroes like Pharah, WB and Genji.
I don’t think it is as simple as “No aim healer vs aim healer”, though. The mechanics run a bit deeper than that and I’d like to see more support/tank heroes with specific hero synergies in mind. 
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You mean… Heavy tank comps have enabled Ana? Ana is an incredibly useful support that could synergise well with many different comps. However, comps featuring Mobile heroes do not favour her because she is highly susceptible to dive and she has no mobility herself and so can’t keep up with a push.
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You either have to hit teammates directly or the area immediately around them in order to heal. The splash is only 3 meters which actually makes it easy to miss anything that isn’t a big tank.
On top of that the arc is apparently troublesome for a lot of people, as Baptiste either has to be above or on equal level with people to reliably heal them. Ceilings are often for higher, so hitting the floor at a teammate’s feet is often the only way to heal someone.
Try healing a Genji as he’s jumping around all over the place as Baptiste. Without using your Burst.
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No, I mean the opposite. Anytime she’s the strongest support you have a tank heavy lineup.
It’s because they can take full advantage of her kit and DPS cannot. The one exception being Nanoblading Genji.
This is a big reason Mercy and Zen as a duo are the most flexible and enable the widest variety. You don’t have to worry about a miss at a critical moment.
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Mid-air shots with him aren’t super easy. Pharah, Doomfist, Genji, Winston, Junkrat, and Widow can all be pretty difficult to hit sometimes.
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The same Genji that Ana can’t hope to keep up with? And that, if on the other team, poses a massive threat to her? Thus, actually supporting the claim that heavy tank lineups enable Ana?
In comps with Genji, there are tanks too, so it’s a bad argument saying that tanks can make full use of her kit therefore 4 tanks is the best. There will still be tanks in a 2-2-2. You can only Nano one target at a time anyway.