There’s only 2 immo abilities on cooldown in the support roster. Suzu and lamp.
Suzu has a 0.6 second duration -ping.
And lamp has an hp bar.
And no, pull is not an immortality, it’s a weird one since “projectiles that hit the target during the pull are blocked, as opposed to passing through, but it does not block line of sight for AoE attacks.”
The rest of support immortality, like tp and fade, are movement abilities. Same as burrow, wraith, recall etc.
LifeGrip is absolutely an immortality mate.
Dont get confused with intangible, thats a different thing.
You can’t kill anyone getting gripped, even if they have a dot, they will literally stop taking ANY source of damage.
They are not just movement abilities mate. Soldier sprint is just a movement ability, Pharahs jets are. Moira literally stops existing for a bit and cleanses effects and stops taking damage (again) during that effect.
That is a trillion % an immortality.
And no, they are not comparable at all with Sojourn’s, freja’s, hanzo’s, genji’s, sombra’s, pharah’s and tracer’s auto movement buttons (your words btw).
I’m not trying to necessarily cape for supports per se, as the role itself could use some fine tuning. I’m just getting annoyed by people constantly bashing supports with this “better dps than dps” narrative.
It pretty much boils down to someone got clapped and their ego can’t take it.
Nope, people don’t want to just sit there and heal you.
Because yall asked supports to be better duelists instead of ‘‘no skill healbotting behind a tank’’.
Most DPS still have better range, TTK and/or mobility than most supports.
I do understand the grievances the support mains face as a support main myself. But I personally just like to contribute to the match in other ways than just dealing damage. Healing just happens to be one of those ways but utility would be another.
Oh my LAWD. This is why God’s last name is Dammit.
Genji did not get trashed. You wanna know what being in the dumpster is, Cybatwink?
225 HP, Junkrat tier Perks, uncancellable deflect, 10 second CD deflect, and your kills dont reset on Dash.
You want that? You want that for yourself? Cos i do. Welcome to Hell buddy. Welcome to the Junkrat lived experience.
What get out of jail free cards do Ana and zenyatta have?
Ooooh i need a new shower head…
Stay away from Glacier Bay. Moen is where it’s at.
Uhhh… well I prefer to speed up my team letting the other support heal…
Cuz you know I can’t heal damage they are healing
As for 2-3 taps? What you want us to just die after the dps get folded? No thanks
We do need more support utility outside of healing. It bakes my clams that most supports have healing & speed boost or healing and anti (Ana) immortality (field)
Like come one! Symetra established ow has teleporters, let a support use those. Jump boost? (I know it might throw some off but like… moving around the map ya know?)
Torb used to give armor, why can’t we get that ability back? (25 armor for those who don’t have it)… Id argue for shield but we already auto heal so eh
Point is, we have support functions not in use lets use them
Lil bro you are blatantly retarded if you thought Buddha was genuinely trying to demean whatever the hell you are.
Is Buddha being racist to another universe now?
Jesus Christ your post was so stupid I can’t even try to be goofy and silly in how I make fun of it. You’re genuinely just a dumbass.
Anti-nade and Sleep for Ana. Nade swings a fight like… 150hp in her favor. Sleep is a guaranteed kill on any squishy if she lands it with nade up.
Zen gets none.
It is not an insult. I am careful with my words, that is why I said you are demonstrating that behavior, not that you are narcissistic. I don’t know, I can’t make that claim. I can only state what is in front of me - your words.
If you find that offensive and insulting, you can…change that behavior, perhaps?..
Hyphen, this is fourth time I am telling you now. I am not upset nor angry nor seething. I am neutral about this. You can pretend that I am all you want, but stating it over and over as if I am is not going to make it true. I know my emotional state, and you do not hold a bearing on it.
No, in this thread specifically. Several people have and you’ve been toxic, and then others abstained.
Not just me. I think you single me out because I do not dismiss your poor behavior and nonsense, or because…dare I say, you are holding a grudge? 
Why are you putting “all the time” in quotes as if I said that to you? I have not said that once to you in the interaction here. The only time I used “all the time” was talking about how I write emails for work all the time.
And I literally said why I can’t post an example. It’s in the literal text of what you quoted me on. They get removed because they’re reported.
I would imagine that someone saying your behavior is demonstrating narcissistic behavior would maybe invite some introspection. Maybe a, “maybe I should re-evaluate how I am conducting myself”.
But, no. You double down. You continue to do it. You, again, try to tell me I’m emotional…yet you are demonstrably very angry with me because you can’t actually read what I’m saying, only what you believe I’m saying so that you can continue the narrative that I am an evil, shady person who is out to insult you.
I will say it one last time for you. Everyone else is not the problem, it is you and your behavior. Be better, Hyphen. It would be nice if you were pleasant to interact with.
That…isn’t what a get out of jail card is though.
I get those are powerful abilities and you dislike Ana. but that is different than, say, Kiriko TP or Moira fade, or Bap’s regenerative burst + immortality field. It’s generally something that physically gets them out of danger, or makes it so they cannot be moved, punished, or hurt.
Otherwise we can consider Widowmaker’s primary shot a get out of jail card…since she can instantly kill her threat. I do not think that would make sense.
Zen right click is a guaranteed kill on a squishy if he lands it so it’s also a get out of jail card by your logic
as if dps passive didnt happened because of the support supremacy not so long ago XD
crazy how one of a kind is more liked than some random bs modes without any Structure.
as if role q was the prefered way of playing the game. yet we only have 1 role q mode that Atleast tries to be competetive.
wierd. Almost as if the devs wanted only 1.role q mode to say that is the most popular mode, and just make anything else open q to support your numbers.
its very simple, make it open q and see who gets picked on the winning team.
you can always exclude dps, but you cannot exclude tank or support. because dps is the only thing anyone can do.
Goats was a thing, not because dps was busted beyond measurement.
but because beating it takes a lot more effort than playing it.
And I am not talking about the pro scene goats cycling cds.
I talk about simply not playing a dps hero massively increasing your chances of winning.
not so great, Especially when we are talking about the most popular role.
imagine you wouldn’t really need a tank. the problem would be a lot less as you may lack a tank anyway.
as womebody who plays a LOT of 6v6 Openq
the most common wining team is actually 3 supports, 2 tanks and 1 dps (that is even sometimes a support as well lmao)
because supports can both heal, dps and most of all survive by themselves (unlike dps who are highly dependant on their supports to survive)
and are harder to hit, because well, dps hitboxes can be compared to tanks sometimes, and support hitboxes…well…thin as paper XD
and thats old news my friend, according to most queue times, the most popular role isnt dps anymore, but its actually support (after all, they keep getting new heroes added since ow2 launched, they are easier and easier to use, and put on the spotlight non stop through skins and events)