Supports are and will always be the problem

its so fun to login once a month now to see that the support role is being absolutely babied. You absolutely CANNOT call this game competitive in terms of skill parameters with heroes like kiriko. Theres no point in the hours i have put in on tank and dps to play against support characters that just make the other roles useless.

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Are Ana, Genji and Reinhardt on the same tierlist?

no? ana is a tier down but she takes way more skill than all of the outs that kiriko has. genji is a solid pick still and reinhardt has been useless for a while besides a few maps

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I don’t get how Kiriko makes other roles useless. She only hard counters anti and maybe shatter.

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Sounds like you prefur CoD/csgo.

I recomend playing them instead as OW doesnt sound like your cup o tea

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shes literally unkillable with a cleanse and a port with cooldowns sub 15 seconds

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Why does she have ~6 deaths per 10 min them?

If she is unkillable shouldnt that close to 0 per 10 mins?

And if Kiriko is unkillable with ~6 per 10 mins, what would you call LW with ~5 per 10 mins?

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figure of speech, just stop thats not an argumen. Those dont provide what im looking for, this game was advertised and played on ESPN for its competitive nature previously, they have not been able to maintain it with introducing invulnerability abilities that make plays useless

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So she isnt actually unkillable then.

The OW league is what killed OW. Its a good thing its being shut down.

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Ah nice, gotta love the resorting to insults.

I love the forum :slight_smile:

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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Sure bud

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He really hasn’t. I don’t know which e-daddy you got this opinion from and idk how many times they have to come out and say he hasn’t been close to being useless. When people were malding over Orisa, they came out to say he was performing better than her, Rein isn’t bad, you may be bad but Rein isn’t and hasn’t been bad despite people trying so desperately to push the delusion that every shatter gets cleansed by Kiriko or anything close to it.

Also towards the OP, The vast majority of tanks aren’t hard to play or get value from at all, that is another skill-issue. People’s problem with tank is how it feels to play them specifically due to issues caused by 5v5 which removes a partner to cover a potential weakness and the increased emphasis on the importance of switching. People love to whine about support’s “free value” yet tanks have some of the most “free value” of everyone in the game and can also easily nullify, deny, and survive ults. Also, one of the biggest problems tanks complain about is how they feel when playing into certain OTHER TANKS.

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stay on topic then bud, this is not how you win discussions

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Your the one who threw insults first.

You derailed first

So why are you trying to act like Supports need to be tierlist balanced against other roles.

When they are on entirely seperate tierlists?

no you reached off topic, i hope you stretched first. Has any commenters heard of hyperbole? it should be clear. nevermind i forgot you are all softies enabled by bots that remove any discussion that is even potentially argumentative. Good luck trying to live in the real world.

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Post #17728235 about supports being broken
Yet the game is the same doesn’t matter how much you whine in the forum
Take a sit pls, there’s a lot of people ahead of you in the line

as the game is actively dying, have you ever considered this might be a reason why after multiple years of the same issue?

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Yeah game is dying since 2018 or before according to haters
Those evil support players are the bane of all games

supports do need to get nerfed i agree. but i also wanna see top dog dps like sojourn and tracer to also be nerfed. i’d say half of the support cast need nerfing. the rest are fine.