So I heard this place was infested with support players. I need your help, guys (the gender neutral version, of course). I am curious as to why you became a support enthusiast and what you enjoy about the experience.
I just need a bit of insight and perhaps encouragement? I am not entirely sure what I need. There is this game called Mahvel, baby, and I want to play a character in it called Luna Snow. She is very pretty. The inherent problem is that I am really bad at her and support as a whole. I try to have fun and ignore all the haters. However, I have teammates berating me for not healing to their egregiously high standards even though I put so much effort into the craft and have multiple enemies feeding just to get a piece of me. Itâs a bit demoralizing because I feel as if I am somehow a burden just for trying to help.
Am I supposed to genuinely care about these people who do not care about me but feel entitled to my luscious heals? It probably sounds like a dumb question, I just need to figure out that mindset that lets you look past all of the silliness. My initial reaction is just a âI am not doing this anymoreâ and I give up and go back to DPS. But I want to learn to be better.
Am I just missing something important? How do you do it? What makes you want to support? I am feeling a bit lost, but Luna Snow is very cute and honestly I feel bad when my Sistah Spice is forced to solo heal.
I actually did believe it or not. After the first incident, I was done with chat and left. However, they still spam for healing. I had a Venom literally stop playing to walk up to me and tickle me with their tentacles.
Albeit, after the game was over, he did actually give me a thumbs up. I assume once the scoreboard was there, he realized I did not hate him merely because I had to reload.
I do not know, man. It just bothers me because I feel I have this attitude in the back of my mind that is like, I can just go and play DPS to avoid it. I believe that maybe real support players just enjoy the role so much that this minor stuff does not bother them at all.
But, again, I have no clue. Thatâs why I am wondering about the mindset. You know, especially those Mercy one tricks. What made them decide to just disregard everything for their queen?
Iâve always enjoyed helping people, being able to save a teammateâs life is what keeps me coming back to the role.
Those moments when a bit of heals allows a teamfight to be won, a point to be held onto.
Itâs a rush to know you made that little bit of difference. (I really disliked all the marvel supps though. Only mantis felt fast enough to survive on while everyone else was stuck in tar. It just felt uncomfortable and clumsy to play them, rocket was okay ish.)
I lack the focus to play dps on top of that. I need several things to focus on when i play or my attention wanders.
Itâs why i focus on more bodyguard like dps when i play them, just to keep my attention focused by checking for flankers and on my supps repeatedly.
As a supp (in ow at least) you keep an eye on flank routes, teammates, enemies, abilities, ults, positioning, escape routes etc. All at the same time while being actively hunted by the entire enemy team and trying to predict what routes your teammates are taking and what theyâll be doing next.
I just go on auto pilot and relax while i zigzag between enemies and try to keep my team alive.
Thatâs why i enjoy the role. It feels fulfilling to help the team and i feel comfortable playing support.
Hero looks are secondary to that. If i feel that a heroâs kit is clumsy or just isnât compatible with my brain, i just drop them.
I have always wanted to enjoy it⌠Thatâs maybe a good start.
Interesting. I never thought about it that way. So itâs not the enjoyment of watching their health bar go up⌠Itâs actually literally saving them from mortal peril. So, wait, is this at the cost of yourself? Hypothetically is it more fun to sacrifice yourself if you save someone? Because maybe thatâs what I am missing. I always play for myself, maybe I just need to get in there and try to save them.
Yep, I could see that. Personally I feel so overwhelmed as support. In Overwatch as well. I am starting a Brigitte era because I found that she just slows things down for me.
I just wonder how I am supposed to tap into that. I have actually just totally given up on wanting to win. My Sistah Spice says she does it to help other people have fun⌠But I hate them. Thatâs where this disconnect is happening.
Edit - oh, sorry, I forgot to thank you for the detailed response. I appreciate the insight.
Depends on the situation. In ow, you just have to learn when itâs feeding to run over to a teammate these days. I very often end up trading my life (mercyâŚ). But when i do, i try to make sure itâs worthwhile.
The timing has to be right.
If i rez a teammate too early, we die and stagger.
Itâs often a balance between safety, requirement and timing.
Trading myself for a rez is fine(but not ideal) if my target doesnât immediately perish. Trading is out of the question if youâre the only support though.
You sometimes have to let someone die to keep the other 3 alive.
Not really.
If i die⌠it happens, at least i saved someone.
The goal is always to not die, but if you identify someone whoâs more skilled at the game than you are, it can be worth it to risk your life.
Before mercyâs 225 hp nerf, i used to bodyblock a few bullets for my teammates to make sure we both lived. With 225 hp, itâs noth worth the risk.
Saving someone and surviving is the true thrill.
People are different, maybe you could try approaching it from a different angle if you canât find the happiness of helping people.
That maybe you keep aggressively foiling your teamâs plans to get themselves killed by the enemy?
Itâs technically the same thing since youâre working to keep them alive.
When i play anything but support, i find my thought process easily defaulting to âhands off my support!â When anyone tries to get them.
So maybe a version of that might help?
A sprinkling of âiâm not letting you die even if you beg me toâ.
If helping them stay alive is not fulfilling, then maybe try forcing them to stay alive?
I try. Might not directly help you, but at least i provided my opinion.
Why are you letting those inconsequential dps and tank plebeians get to you? When you are playing support, you have to get into the mentally that you are the healer, therefore, you are in charge. Thats because we supports are literally the most valuable people in the entire team! And if anybody speaks out of turn, just let them die for their insolence, as you have all the power over their pathetic lives. Zero heals for any and all ungrateful teammates. Simple as.
Thatâs how you deal with complainers on your team as a support.
It is natural, like itâs just completely about my nature, (prepare for the cringe anime answer blah blah blah) it sorta just âmeâ ya know so Iâm a Baptiste main right I primarily lije killing and getting picks, healing is actually like the âBackgroundâ part of me Iâm just ya know really realllly good at it but Iâm not usually like always constantly focusing on it, same reason Im so compatible with Lifeweaver healing is second nature to me, itâs just âA thing that happensâ itâs just like a âSide effectâ of who I am as a person.
I also value skill expression (tho thats more Weaver then Baptiste) and supports to me have a lot of that, well depending on the hero.
I primarily want to kill things, but the backseat part of me is a support a person who heals so I can combined both and thats what makes me me a support main.
I canât speak for Marvel Rivals, but thereâs so many cheesy abilities in this game and I enjoy being able to give my ally a chance to fight back and use their own cheesy ability.
Also, heals donât have to fight through as much damage to do their thing like close range heroes do.
I like veing the teams backbone. I enjoy being the person that bails people out. I also like the strategic aspect of applying the right resources at the rivgh time to get a win. Makes me feel more creatve than straight up shooting
I play support because I enjoy being able to wellâŚsupport my friend
I mean thatâs also why I took up the tank role so I could take eyes off of them and be the danger while they did⌠something.
I have a tendency to get tunnel visioned playing the game so having them there is really nice, and throwing them a bone when I can as a distraction or a healer is my way of saying thanks.
I think youâre on a hiding to nothing by looking for a way to make yourself enjoy helping unlikeable people.
Try a perspective shift instead. By healing up teammates, youâre helping yourself, because even if your feeders are doing nothing of value themselves theyâre at least soaking up bullets that could be spent on other, actually useful teammates. As well as charging up your ult, of course.
Alternatively, think about it from the enemyâs perspective. Theyâre about to get a sweet frag and then you come along and ruin their day by saving their target. Then you pop Lunaâs EZ Clap ability and nuke them. Doesnât the idea of that tickle your schadenfreude even just a little bit?
These peasents exist to be our shields and to give the enemy team something else to shoot at while we as suppirts try and lill them, thats the only reason we try and keep these mongrols alive.
I came to OW from WoW, and was a lifelong support player there too. I just really enjoy uplifting people and enabling them to do what they need to do. I like making their days better, and I like easing their suffering.
Yes, you will get salty people⌠but then you meet salty people IRL who treat doctors badly. I once saw a guy in hospital have a go at his emergency response team because they resucitated him after he had a heart attack: âWaste of space, all of you, you should have let me die.â Charming stuffâŚ
I think âeveryone suffers, lets alleviate that.â Whatever they have to say about that is moot really. If someone isnât full of praise for my efforts in a video game, that says more about them than me tbh.
Iâve been looking for that clip of the King Sized Homer episode where the pig encourages Homer on his journey to obesity, but I canât find it on Youtube. Just pretend I linked it.
Well, thatâs quite short story. I prefer to do things by proxy, and I do enjoy teammates, who absolutely didnât deserve to succeed on their own, succeeding due to my buffs.
Game is experiment and your teammates are test subjects, while you test all combinations of buffs on them, until they either succeed or prove to be unsuitable for your supersoldier project. Itâs all about manipulating things behind the scenes, rather than directly engaging enemy.
Even teammates with intellect of a zombie can be made successful, if you buff them far enough.
Well the first thing you have to do is play conventional shooters for twelve years so that the âwalk around killing stuffâ gameplay loop begins to bore you.
Then you start playing Overwatch and have a lot of fun playing tanks and supports, who still have the fast-paced, reactive mechanics of a shooter but whose objectives and playstyles are much more flexible and versatile, with an emphasis on strategizing around whatever your team gives you.
