Support pickrates and winrates across all ranks

I took this weeks stats because they are the most recent there are. Your approach is more of a discussing of a class half full or half empty. For example you say that in GM she has the 4th lowest winrate, but is that a bad thing if she’s still above 50% WR?
In Masters she does have the lowest WR but she’s not that far away from McCree not to mention that her winrate is 49.11%. It’s not even a 1% off from 50%

Well I can see you’re wanting to start an argument, and I don’t really want to waste time arguing with someone that’s going to say that pointing out attempts to mislead people is an attack on their character.

Have a nice day :slight_smile:

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It’s a bad thing if the ranks average winrate for the rank in question exceeds the average for a specific hero by a significant amount.

Winrates in a specific rank matter relative to the average winrate for the rank in question.

For example, Reinhardt has a 47.56% winrate in Bronze.

The thing is that isn’t very bad when you consider that most heros in Bronze have a lower winrate than that.

Pretty much all real-world statistics takes statistics from a portion of the total population.

If you needed 100% of the data, that would just be counting, not statistics.

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I tend to default to this month stats. It’s small enough that you’re rarely covering more than 2 patches (current and previous), but large enough that any outliers are eliminated. When I mentioned the lack of sub-50% GM heroes in the last 12 months it was on monthly stats; Hanzo before he got buffed, and Reaper, Torb and Bastion immediately afterwards

The win rate you should be comparing to is not 50%, but the average win rate in the tier you’re presenting. You need to be close to that average win rate in order to stay in the tier, and if you’re below it then you’re losing SR.

In GM, where Mercy’s win rate was 50.77%, the average win rate is about 54.3%. That’s far enough below the average so that If you’re playing Mercy in GM then you’re throwing. Moira’s win rate this week is a bit of an outlier in GM. She’s usually at about 52.5. No other healer has a problem this big there.

In Master, the average win rate is 52.5. Again, no other healer is even close to being as far as Mercy from the average win rate. In diamond the average win rate is about 51.5%.

A difference of 3-4% from the average win rate is huge. The spread of all win rates is about 6-7%. 3-4% is worse than the situation Ana was in prior to the changes. It’s the worst situation a support has been in in higher ranks in the past 6 months (that’s the depth of the Overbuff database).

I recently posted 2 posts about this. One giving the weekly averages (both win and pick rate) for Mercy since her nerf in ranks diamond-gm and the other explaining the statistical levels of confidence we have in that data. I’m linking these in case anyone’s interested.

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What people also need to realize is that the larger your sample size, the more significant even small differences become.

1-2% can matter a lot if it’s between a large sample.

To those claiming that private profiles are correlated with skill, and thus the Overbuff stats are skewed: The introduction of private profiles did not introduce any statistically significant long term changes in win or pick rates for any of the characters I checked (I say long term because in the first few days most characters saw a small bump).

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while i agree with you, i have to ask you, what the hell is your problem? Where are your manners? how do you function in real world, you’re taking such an aggressive stance over something you’re so knowledgeable of (supposedly)… Calm down.

So, it’s only a very rough estimate but will be used as if the God of statistical accuracy himself quoted them? Got it.

I thought we couldn’t use Overbuff anymore in any discussion about balance?

Im the boss where I work. I can be as aggressive as I want

I’m sorry but with that way of thinking I don’t believe you’re a boss of any sort lol. That’s kid’s talk.

You can look at the overall pickrates and WR as well. The only thing that will change is the pickrate %.

Overbuff as a whole lacks accuracy. But people pretend it’s the Bible

Not pretending that it’s the bible, but it the stats you get from Overbuff are way better than wrong opinions and feelings.

Brig really is such an outlier in all ranks. Ana only gets strong in the highest ranks and Moira only gets weak there, but Brig has the highest win rate by far in every rank. She even has a 53.29% win rate in Bronze, when no other healer is even at 50%!

You don’t. You have to go out of your way to make them public. They are visible for “friends only” by default.

I didn’t know you could for speaking the truth

It’s the same application for all heroes though. So it might not be totally reliable, but we can still count on it

Hard agree

Absolutely

So… when do you think Ana will be nerfed? And how?