Been playing a lot of tank today. It was miserable and I was blamed for everything.
So I went to watch the replays to see if I was actually making mistakes so I could improve my gameplay. But what I found was a plethora of unbelievably bad Moira players and many many team fights that were lost because of major support mistakes.
So next time you want to call your tank trash, either look at how your supports are playing or $tfu. Nobody every notices when supports play bad cause they hide in the back.
Itās pathetic how you can have a Moira on your team that heals you for 1/10 team fights and the entire team harasses and reports the tank for it.
Iām dropping the role until we have 6v6 back where tank synergy will give me tremendous value and I donāt have to rely as much on boosted moira mains.
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Insult? Huh? Whatās weird to me though, is that you would make a thread about no game in particular, but then youād seek to dismiss a reply by saying that I didnt play with you in that game, nor have I even seen replay of your game. Like, ok bro. But you still read like a diffed tank that is lashing out over being flamed on all day.
And why yes, I do flip off random people in the street, how did you know?
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Well, they should be.
The last patch literally tried to minimize the Tank diff as much as possible, in the Matchmaker.
Morgan Maddren did a big writeup for it.
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always has been support diffs.
Never will be something else
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Nah at least 40% of my games are DPS diffs, 30% are support diffs and 30% are tank diffs.
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I donāt have dps diffs when I play support.
because true supports donāt need dps heroes.
Just diff the enemy dps as support yourself.
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Believe me I do, then the DPS and tank cry āno healingā 
And when Iām tank, without fail in most of my games my DPS hard lock spamrat and reaper against freaking PHARMERCY and in the ones weāre this doesnāt happen I get an Ashe and soldier that canāt hit a barn door.
In both cases I end up going the meathead and focusing the 
out of the pharah and mercy.
Then comes the inevitable āwhereās our tank goneā
It is maybe 1 out of 15 games were our team actually works as a cohesive unit in a balanced and fair match.
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Oh yeah that happens, or the ocasional bastion basically screaming āI donāt know what to doā
Its the desperation picks because they are struggling.
Mate donāt q dps if you canāt handle it.
Thats the reason I play support 24/7 because dps is so much more work. 
Itās the opposite for me I can go DPS and play like a literal garbage bin, and no-one cares as long as my name shows up in the kill feed. Easiest games of my life.
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Most ātank diffsā are really just team diffs in disguise. Especially after they tightened MMR variance for the tank role just to appease the people complaining about this non-issue. It is far less likely for the tank to be solely the blame. It can still happen, no doubt. But you can still enable a mediocre tank or put resources into your valuable members to play a different win condition. Those are just more complicated than expecting a carry.
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Had a comp game last evening and we had half of the healing the other team had. We won but it was close.
Orisa is an odd tank. Every time she is on my team and I pocket her she just collapses but she doesnāt when the other team has herā¦
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Yup.
Matches in 5v5 are literally decided by whichever team heals their tank better.
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Sometimes itās also a dps diff.
A support canāt do their job if theyāre being continuously harassed by the enemy dps.
Not saying that support diffs donāt exist, but iāve gotten blamed for a team loss because i didnāt āheal enoughā. I canāt heal as well as long as iām fighting for my life in the backline against a flanker.
Of course the enemy supps will heal more than we do, if our dps arenāt pressuring them as much as their dps are pressuring us.
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Yeah. Just a good example of why 6v6 made a lot more sense. You had a tank pushing the front line taking space, and a tank to peel for supports. It was just a lot more well rounded and tank value isnāt tied to something out of their hands. When you can peel for supports regularly you make it very easy for them to take care of you. But in 5v5 in order to peel you have to give up space and turn your back on the enemy which can often result in death.
6v6 is going to be huge, I know it.
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you can carry a dps diff, its the easiest, as long as only 1 dps diff, while the other one decent
you can also still carry in support diff
you cant carry a tank diff, because tank is equal 2 people in power
Lmao ofc you cry as a tank player. Get gud
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Which is why peeling is the job of the dps in 5v5 rq.
So if a support keeps getting harassed by enemy dps continuously and not get helped, itās dps diff.
Peeling for suppirts got taken off the tank task list when 1 tank got removed.
(Now if only the dps players realised thisā¦)
Sure a support can duel a dps, but if that takes longer than 2 seconds, it means the support needs help. (Or if they continuously keep getting killed)
The longer that backline duel goes on, the longer the team goes without healing.
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Careful, pointing out the obvious reality that supports arenāt perfect and just as likely to cause lost games isnāt allowed on these forums.
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Tbf the problem with his post is saying that itās always the supports. Not that sometimes supports make mistakes, and we all know that itās disingenuous to infer that the forum acts like a hive mind in the way you suggest lol
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Thatās baloney. Iām sure I have carried a bad tank a lot of times with Ana by dealing massive amount of heals 2 to 3 times of the enemy healers, sleeping the enemy tank during crucial moments and throwing anti-nade into a crowd so we can roll them over.
Even playing as support itās obvious when their supports are much better than us costing us the game. Also having one troll support in my team that doesnāt heal forcing me to solo heal usually ends up in a loss.
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