Support buffs for 321

I know it’s not just me, but it’s really hard to play support in 321. I love the chaos and the single overpowered tank. Makes the game more of a shooter. But the downside to that is that the supports are left often to die. And with 3 dps the healers are CONSTANTLY dead.

Here’s what I suggest for change:
Either buff the supports to be more offensive off healers that can still support the team but be able to keep up with the dps in terms of damage. Or defensively to where they can ACTUALLY defend themselves from death.

What would u guys change on support to make them more off healer/ dps like healers. Cuz for me personally, I don’t wana b free ult charge, I wana fight back. And for me, I’d revert brig to her box release for 321. But what r ur guys’ thoughts? I just think that it’s actually hell to play support in this game mode and I think healers should get some offensive or defensive buffs to help them keep up.

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Eh idk.

Can I just buff all the supports? :smiley:

Ana

Ig just make her a true queen. No movement speed penalty on scope.

Briggite

Inspire duration (self) reduced from 6 seconds to 3 still heals 65 total health

Barrier shield deployment time reduced to .25s

Baptiste

60 health on grenade

.36 interval instead of .45 on primary

Mercy

Weapon swap time reduced to .2s

60 hps

Moira

80 hps on primary

30 hps on secondary

Lucio

Sound barrier cost decreased by 20%

Zenyatta

Secondary charge time decreased by 20%

Trans cost decreased by 10%

If we buff their damage too much, dps mains will be triggered and have them gutted :frowning:

They just need better peel options imo

Ana 1 extra second on sleep

Zenyatta a knockback on melee hit if you hold alt fire cooldown every 6 seconds

Brig can charge shield bash for greater distance/speed. The further away it hits the less stun

Lucio seems fine

Mercy faster flight maybe? but with boost jump it seems she’s ok

Baptiste shorter time on his super jump

Healing revert won’t help moira or Baptiste, they suffer because of mobility/range issues. They are just not good with DPS comps because they struggle to keep up

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regardless of my opinions on some of your proposed changes, people like you who fuel this stupid generalisation trend of thinking certain roles hate other certain roles are honestly awful for this community

these generalisations do not hold up and very few people are actually like that. those who are like that are can be ignored

Most people are dps mains

And it’s not like Mercy mains were out here asking for 50 hps.

I never claimed anyone hated any other role

Ignore me, please. Don’t come for me because I’m stating facts lol.

It will help them. Sure, they won’t compete with Mercy, but it is a start.

I’d talk about better changes than reverts, but we’re down heroes on an already super slow release schedule.

No point in asking for anything big, they are intentionally withholding content and have been doing so for years to make OW2 look bigger.

I really hate to be that guy, but OW2 is nothing more than a cashgrab. Hell yeah I’m gonna buy it still lol, but what we’ll get in 2021, we should have already had and much more.

I wouldn’t be so crude about the subject if the devs talked to us, but what attitude do they expect? Actions have consequences, and the way players perceive your business comes from nothing more than the decisions you’ve made as a company.

  1. Ana: less sleep or granade cd
  2. Mercy: faster switching weapon
  3. Moira: less fade cd
  4. Brigitte: less dash cd
  5. Lucio is fine
  6. Zenyatta: 230 hp
  7. Baptiste: faster jump charge and less self healing cd

In general I find the biggest problem is with 3 DPS and 1 tank no one groups up. There isn’t a “push at the choke” so much as 3 random flankers pushing in their own way and then the tank moving forward usually at the choke.

This has made healing for AoE healers far less efficient unless their range is really good, like Brig’s Inspire. In fact most my games the winning team had a Brig in it. Also given the immense value the tanks now have, Rezing them is pretty good as well if risky (as if the tank is dead it’s likely in the open and you have no second tank to provide cover)

But people like Moira just can’t get her team together to really get much with her healing Baptiste has a simular problem and purely single target healers like Zen barely contribute. His 30hps to a single target is kind of a joke, Roadhog heals more than he does.

I think the biggest issues with Support in solo tank is obviously they get attacked way more and have less in the way of defenses. But there is also the fact way more dmg is coming in, and it’s more spread out thus being way harder to heal.

As many have said 1-3-2 feels like Respawn Simulator the game, which is really annoying on maps where the walk from spawn is a good 30 seconds long.

The lies are what got me the most about OW2. For pretty much the entirity of 2019 we were told they were holding off content to push game balance and character reworks. None of those balance changes really did much and they seemed so sparse it was hard to believe it was their “Full focus” to the point they couldn’t even add a new map to lucio ball or something.

Then we find out they have been working on OW 2 for at least 2 years, meaning while they were “refocusing on game balance” it was in development. And from Dev comments apparently they had wanted to do new things for the events but were told not to.

So yeah not only did they take content away from the game (content funded by some insane profits from Loot boxes btw) but they lied about it for years before coming clean. It’s also kind of funny the recent changes. Role Q made their last year of game balance changes to try and stop Goats pretty pointless.

And if Tripple DPS, solo tank becomes a thing it will make even more balance changes a joke.

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I think they wanted to force competition with damage because adjusting their current matchmaker is stupid difficult

Look at queue times

But yeah, Blizzard…really disappointed in ya :frowning:

Hurts to read that on my fav game of all time

I’d remove reliance on teammates to fight and peel.

  1. Brigitte - Shield health at 250, SB damage at 30, Self-Inspire heal to 13-14hp/s
  2. Zen - Heal orb 30 -40 HP/S - Right click spread nerf reverted
  3. Moira- self heal back to 30 HP/Sec

That’s all I’d change

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I think Bap’s Lamp could use a few reverst as well, the HP nerf especially is pretty stupid. 250hp is nothing against 3 dps so no reason to drop it down.

Over all I think a look at supports self regen abilities need the most love as they are priority targets all the time. I think any support that relies on activated abilities should have a CD reduction, and others just amp up the recovery rate or HP total.

250hp zen and Mercy?

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