Suggestions for Mercy from someone with too much time on her 📝

[Titanium-1686]

can we stop talking about mass rez

whether it was good or not blizz have made clear it’s not coming back so regardless of whether that is a mistake or not that doesn’t change the fact it’s not coming back in the form we remember it so let’s start looking at other solutions and stop wasting time rambling about it.

Wasting time is exactly what I’m on the forums to do, honestly.

So no. I won’t stop talking about it.

[Racillian-1752]

I saw a video of your play from back then. And in it, you on Mercy asked the other healer on Lucio if they could handle all the healing because Rez was up. And then you held back from the fight.

Are you referring to an anubis match? I am pretty sure you are, that’s the case I remember saying that. I usually say that when I draw attention to my location to the enemy team before a fight on the left when I know they want to dive me, than tell my Lucio to cover for my absence while I literally go back through spawn and be on the right and then initiate with my team, but no, not wait for res. Simply waiting for them to dive the wrong side.

With Rez being up the enemy team would reasonably assume that its up and therefore would want to dive the Mercy. That makes this action a positioning outplay not “Hide n’ Rez”.

However, with some people’s posts in the forums they take any time that Mercy isn’t “in the fight with a beam on someone” as hiding.

[Melke-1420]

Touche my friend touche

[Macster-11267]

@Titanium-1686

Yes, it does.

Transcendence vs Graviton Surge, Earthshatter, Whole Hog, Dragonstrike and Nanovisor - YouTube

Notice how none of Zenyatta’s teammates died until after Transcendence ended.

Shadow426:

This is literally all you need to back up any argument that was placed against Mass Resurrect. Ana nade + Transcendence = 450HP healing for 4 seconds and the rest of the 6 seconds is 300HP. Enough to counter several Overwatch ultimates with the use of 1 ultimate. So any argument in place about Resurrect being the only thing countering multiple ultimate’s is completely false because Zenyatta can equally do the same thing except it’s in the heat of the moment.

[galXieranger-1900]

It was on Ilios, IIRC. But the point was that your play-style was held up as text-book “hide-and-rez” by the Mercy-hating crowd. And it was also the play-style that most people in other ranks demanded of Mercy players to use. (“EeveeA’s the best, and she does it this way, so should you.”)

I played even more aggressively than that. (Probably part of the reason I’ve been ranked so low - the main reason though being that I can’t really aim for , at least not on a computer screen)

[Space-13853]

You could still get more than one rez in thirty seconds if this was applied. what’s wrong with the current one? seems to me you just want rez to be insanely powerful like it used to be.

[DarkElixir-2124]

Anyone else curious why this thread hasn’t been thrown into the black hole yet?

[Melke-1420]

I am, especially since there are other threads that are still getting thrown into the mega-thread

[Space-13853]

So any argument in place about Resurrect being the only thing countering multiple ultimate’s is completely false because Zenyatta can equally do the same thing except it’s in the heat of the moment.

Mercy’s ult was used after the majority or all of the enemy teams ults were used. Then mercy came in and rezzed everybody leaving the enemy team with no ults and at a massive disadvantage. The enemy also likely wouldn’t be at full health because the rez was instant and some had to go into another fight at half health.
The difference with zens ult is it could be forced out if you focused him and then you could wait it out or you could use one dps ult to make him use it with your team still having their ults.

[Macster-11267]

Mercy’s ult was used after the majority or all of the enemy teams ults were used. Then mercy came in and rezzed everybody leaving the enemy team with no ults and at a massive disadvantage. The enemy also likely wouldn’t be at full health because the rez was instant and some had to go into another fight at half health.

The difference with zens ult is it could be forced out if you focused him and then you could wait it out or you could use one dps ult to make him use it with your team still having their ults.

Forcing out Resurrect was very possible so I don’t get where that theme comes from? You kill an enemy you don’t even need to kill Mercy.

For the Mercy on the enemy team you either
A. Were forced to use Resurrect because you would be at a man disadvantage and bring them back will level the playing field.
or
B. Save Resurrect for a bigger ultimate fight, and risk fighting a 6v5.

[Space-13853]

You can’t force rez if you haven’t killed anyone. You can however force trans if you haven’t killed anyone.

[DarkElixir-2124]

I can’t decide if it’s because it’s EeveeA and masses of people will complain if the thread gets merged or if it’s preferential treatment due to OP being a celebrity.

[Macster-11267]

Ok… But all heroes are capable of doing enough damage to get a kill. So it’s not that difficult. You can use left click damage and abilities to secure a kill and force a Resurrect out without the need for ultimates. So yes… Very possible.

[Melke-1420]

Might be a combination of both as well as how PC blizz seem to be getting at least with OWL (if they are banning people over Trihard then what do you think would happen if they silenced a trans person)

NO offence to Eevee intended wit this non non sense I know it’s not her fault but at the same time it’s what blizz is doing

[Space-13853]

You’d have to get a kill then pressure the mercy and HOPE she uses ult. Most wouldn’t unless it was the last team fight. Unlike zen who would definitely use it no matter if it was last fight or not.

[Dr4gon97-2428]

I’m wondering why this isn’t in the megathread yet.

Because forum mods apply double standards as they please.

Ah, btw, I’m not saying I want this thread moved into the oblivion of Mercy Megathread. I’m just making an observation

[Macster-11267]

You’d have to get a kill then pressure the mercy and HOPE she uses ult. Most wouldn’t unless it was the last team fight. Unlike zen who would definitely use it no matter if it was last fight or not.

Why pressure Mercy? Your team would be at an advantage and all you have to do is keep pushing forward? If the Mercy was hiding who cares she isn’t healing meaning they would be playing a 6v4. Again don’t even need to use ultimates. Forcing her to either use it or play at a disadvantage.

[Space-13853]

The chances of winning a team fight without ults later on in the round is small. And you have to pressure mercy you know… so she doesn’t rez her entire team?
You can’t make a mercy rez one person without pressuring her. Why would she rez ONE person with her ult if she wasn’t getting pressured.

[Macster-11267]

What are you talking about?

If 1 person goes down on an enemy team whether that be a tank DPS or Support they are down some sort of Sustain/Healing/Damage.

@Space-13853

The chances of winning a team fight without ults later on in the round is small

The chances of winning a fight with Mercy’s current “ultimate” is small since it doesn’t do much. So yes ultimates are supposed to be impactful and be able to win a team fight.

[Space-13853]

@Macster-11267

This is literally all you need to back up any argument that was placed against Mass Resurrect. Ana nade + Transcendence = 450HP healing for 4 seconds and the rest of the 6 seconds is 300HP. Enough to counter several Overwatch ultimates with the use of 1 ultimate. So any argument in place about Resurrect being the only thing countering multiple ultimate’s is completely false because Zenyatta can equally do the same thing except it’s in the heat of the moment.

What are you talking about? i responded to what you said about mass rez not current rez.