Stuck in a massive rut with Ana

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24,000 healing done. 72% scoped accuracy. 13 enemies slept. 40 defensive assists. I still lost. And it’s been like this on repeat for quite some time. I’ve pinned the replay in case anyone wants it shared.

Normally I wouldn’t complain, I’ve been watching ML7’s coaching series and he highlights after losing his first placement match it’s just one game. Thing is I’ve played 98 games this Season and won 32, lost 66. Thats just higher than a 30% win rate. My biggest win streak is 2. And I’ve had that ONCE.

Now not every game do I play perfect, but I keep my teammates alive as best I can (at times they seem suicidal), are pretty accurate with the sleep dart, can keep myself alive in the backline without any peeling (for the most part) and maintain between 60-70 accuracy. I’ll always get around 15,000 healing in an average game. I don’t just focus on the big fat tanks, I triage and do what I can to keep everyone alive. I tend not to go for kills but I will target an out of position enemy, or a high flying Pharah or Echo. I’ll use my nade offensively if a charging Rein is near or a Hog us out of position and vulnerable etc.

I’ve sat for 6 Seasons in Plat, watched more coaching videos (ML7, Stylosa) than ever before, I am definitely more accurate than I’ve ever been yet I’ve slipped to Silver, on my way to Bronze by the looks of things.

I’m completely at my wit’s end. I dont know how I can perform any better. I don’t know what I can do to help my team win. At this point I’m just about done with Comp in all honesty. I’ve never experienced anything like this in all the years I’ve played.

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72 percent you say?

That’s not good enough. You need at least 84% to ride at 600sr.

And if you can’t get that than you deserve <500, where you’re headed anyway.

I’m top 500 btw, my word is LAW. Git gud.

/s

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Did I say 72%? I meant 102%.

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I have to say that I am pretty Jelly of your accuracy :smiley: I will feel pretty lucky if I even manage 60% constantly on Ana. ML7 usually holds around 69-75% acc so you are so close to it. Big props for that from my part.

On the other hand, what were the most maps you were playing? How was your positioning? I do not see a replay code anywhere, but even if I did I would not comment on it since I am not Plat, however I would prioritize killing that 20 hp target who is out of position that your whole team keeps ignoring instead of healing, then heal after you kill them.

I personally have a list of every ML7 positioning on most of the maps and let me tell you that it does not work most of the times in lower ranks. For example if you are Anubis on Defense most GM Ana players, including ML7 would position way in the back like on the high ground then move slightly towards the high ground just above the point. That way they could see all of their teammates. The thing is your team is not going to position in a way where you would be able to see them, will get out of your LOS most often than not and even if you would call it out in VC “cannot see you, pull back” you would be met with comments like “get into a better position to heal us”, while that “better” position would put you in an LOS of the enemy hitscan and then you end up not knowing what to do and you end up providing little to zero value. I still myself do not know what to do in those situations tbh, whether or not to push so I can heal them and risking dying to the enemy Widow or simply hope that the enemy hitscan is so bad that they will miss their shots on me and I would be able to provide value.

I hope one of the higher ranked players reply to this topic so we could both get help :smiley:

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Maybe this is the issue? I mean dmg/kills are pretty important even on most support heroes if they want to carry games. Keep in mind that you are not healing bot.

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Ha don’t big me up too much, I’m on PS4 so have aim assist. I pinned the replay but haven’t shared it, if I did I’d love everyones opinion including yours. I’m no longer plat and starting to think those 6 Seasons were just flukes :joy:

I know exactly what you mean. After the same thing happening to me in Anubis I position myself on the arch just above the area your shield tanks normally stand. You get a view of that area and can jump down quickly when they inevitably wander into that small room on the flank.

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I’d be up for watching your replay later, and share my thoughts!

As was stated before, you don’t carry games as Ana by healing a lot, mostly by getting big anti-nades early in fights, or getting picks on your own, or obviously getting sleeps at positions where they can be followed up on.

But if you share the replay I’ll definitely take a look later tonight.

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Also do not listen to salty forum users that spend their time flaming the System and giving you sarcastic replies while they could spend that time to improve themselves but they do not want it.

Mistakes that I have noticed in my own Ana gameplay (please do feel free to ignore the ones that do not apply to you in particular) are: using the cooldowns toe early without getting any value out of them leaving me helpless for the next 10 seconds and only surviving (that is if I actually survive) if the enemy is worse than me and does not have any awareness whatsoever that make them use those mistakes against me.; sleeping targets that my team cannot follow up on, failing my sleeps on targets that would turn the fight in my team’s favour; using my nades either too late or too early, making us lose the fight; keeping my nano for too long for the Genji that is building his blade enormously slow; keeping the same nade for a Genji that has his Blade but does not use it because either he failed to recognize the opening that would give his blade advantage or he fed and died 3 times in a row while having his Blade. Those are currently the biggest mistakes that I can come up with from the top of my head :smiley: I am pretty sure that there are more that I cannot remember at this particular moment.

Also, irregardless of what Platform you are playing on you have every right to pat yourself on the back for achieving something you have been working on for a very long time, executing it successfully, just like you should slap yourself on the back of your head for making a mistake, especially the most blatant one.

Another thing, do not only look at replays when you lose, also analyze the replays where you have won. You will notice more mistakes there, ironically, because people get way too cocky if they know that they are winning and would make certain plays that they would never do if they were losing. Those might prove more useful than not unless you are actually smurfing and playing 2-3 elo’s below your main and you are doing everything you are doing on purpose, but let me tell you no matter how cocky you will get, even a Bronze widow is going to hit her shots eventually, and when she does it is mostly those game winning shots :smiley:

Do not blame your feeding Hog or Ball for you dying. You decided yourself to get into a position where you willingly risked you getting sniped by the enemy hitscan to heal their behind (actually this one is more intended to berate myself rather than you personally :smiley: but it does bear meaning). If they are in a position that in order to heal them would expose you to the enemy hitscan, let them die. I have learned that the hard way. If your team is feeding and for whatever reason do not listen to your callouts or decide to ignore them, let them die. Your life as a support is much more valuable than their feeding behind.

Better to let them die fast and you giving yourself the chance to retreat and live and regroup with them has more value than you trying to keep them alive where you will die first, them second then none of you respawn at the same time, then again they go in alone, making the teamfight 4vs6 and again the process repeats.

And never ever trust your team to finish a low HP target even if you call it out because they are too busy with the enemy Tank who is full HP and also being pocketed by a Mercy and at the same time are yelling in VC “healers you suck”, “help me” while they keep pushing forward while anti :smiley: Always try to secure low hp kills yourself and then heal. People in low ranks only see what is directly on their screen, they either do not know or will not turn around to see what is happening behind them.

When I play Ana and my other support is playing Mercy in 90% of the cases I know that she will only healbot so I use it to secure those 20 hp low enemy target kills since her yellow beam is going to be way up our Rein’s full HP behind.

And last but not least, never ever trust your shield. Make a pillar or cover your shield and this applies especially when your team is running 2 OT. IN ML7’s unranked to GM there was this particular match where he played on Nepal (cannot exactly remember right now what that particular map is called), but it was not Sanctum definitely, yes it was Village where he hugged this pillar that was right next to the point and he was like “see this chat, this is my Orisa shield, I am not moving from this spot.” Never underestimate the power of natural cover :smiley:

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You’re top 500 bronze

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that’s Mr. top 500 bronze to you, maggot. jk

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Sad thing is, for supports, you usually get amazing healing stats when losing, because your team take so much damage lol. On the other heads, wjen your team is steam rolling the enemy team, you usually dont output a lot of healing, since your team can wipe out enemies without taking too much damage, you might even had a lot of time to play dps ana in that case lol. My only tip on ana is, if you have good accuracy, unless you really need your nade to save a very critical teammate, you should always try to use it to anti nade enemies, which give your teammates a much higher chance you kill them.

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Take hold of the fight and drag it to victory. Make sure you’re applying the things you learn. Study the art of the nade, from splash to bypass shield, and yeet into air nades. Callout slept/naded.

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You need to start doing more damage on the enemy squishies. Stop healing so much, and focus on landing your nade on enemy targets that you and your teammates have easy access to kill. Not all healthbars have to be full all the time. Increase your pace too. Maybe send us a replay as well.

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Stop playing like heal bot and start make picks, heal your team mates and kill enemyteam supports if you see that someone have bad position example, you have scope for that. If you only dump your gun up to your Tanks butt hole and empty your weapon’s magazine you are not doing all what you can.

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