That’s how I’ve been doing it and it’s been kinda working. Apparently, you know more, so please tell me?
(Honest question, I’m curious how I might improve.)
Implying Ana hasn’t been nerfed at all in 2 years. Never mind the fact she can’t capitalize on sleep herself anymore. Never mind the fact her healing got nerfed and she was already healing the least out of every main healer.
No. She “escapes nerfs” in that she’s still witch hunted just the same, but is already easily punished for misplays.
You’re really blaming Ana for what the community does to other main healers.
Bro. Say it with me now.
The meta, without Ana, is the exact same, But with Bap or Moira. We’ve replaced Ana already, and it resulted in the same exact team comps.
and since you’re already typing your next fallacious non-argument, I’m going to ask you to say it once more.
The meta team comp. Without Ana. Is still the same, but with another burst healer.
To nobodies surprise, Ana isn’t the reason the meta is stagnant. Nor’ was Bap. Or Moira.
No…? He’s good because he no longer relies on his ult to be useful. His kit is fine, nerf his damn ult they buffed his entire kit and left his ult alone including his ult charge.
We don’t nerf supports because DPS are strong. Nerf DPS nerf power creep.
Yes during double shield, a meta where she shouldn’t be used at all.
As well, bap is literally only used for his immortality field in high level. That’s it. Ana is used for her whole kit.
Her nerfs were incredibly minor in comparison to that of Bap.
BAP NERFS
Immortality Field
- Health decreased from 250 to 200.
Immortality Field
- Maximum duration reduced from 8 to 5 seconds.
- Cooldown increased from 20 to 25 seconds.
Amplification Matrix
- Ultimate cost increased by 20%.
ANA NERFS
Nano Boost
- Heal reduced from 300 to 250.
1.47.1.0 - 4/29/2020
Sleep Dart
- Sleep duration lowered from 6 to 5 seconds.
1.48.0.0 - 5/19/2020
Biotic Rifle
- Healing reduced from 75 to 70.
Ana nerfs are pathetically small in comparison! I am not surprised they had zero effect as it looks like they were designed to have zero effect.
EDIT: OOPS, I missed another 2 of Bap nerfs:
She also wasn’t just released, having 3 years worth of nerfs behind her on top of it.
At least quote where you got your information from next time. And I love how you completely ignored like 3 years of changes to an old hero to make an argument.
Yep. The fact that Ana can just shut down every other supports defensive ult (mainly nano-blade) or sleep an ulting lucio (If you’re lucky), anti-nade a trance or just nano someone… There’s too many good skills compiled into 1 healer.
Ana/Genji need a nerf. Or buff other healers that need it.
There is no viable defensive ult for nano-blade
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Her grenades is something that needs to be nerfed long ago but whenever Blizzard nerf her they nerf the wrong thing about her (Like her damage at one point like wtf??)
Agree 100%
Being able to survive as Ana is another skill. I never expect to get any peeling being in plat, so learning to survive on your own is an unnoticed skill
I stopped reading at Skill=Reward
A characters usage shouldn’t make them more powerful than the other heroes.
This game is supposed to be accessible.
Your logic leads to what a roster of 6-10 heroes?
If skill=reward then Reignhardt and current Genji don’t deserve their spots.
I think she needs her kit rebalanced a bit so the anti-nade isn’t like a mini-ult in terms of strength. She also needs to be a more reliable healer overall. It’s a problem when a single ability is so incredibly strong it’s the practically the entire reason to bring the hero along. (see also: Defense Matrix)
She’s the #1 most popular hero according to Overbuff data (~12% pick rate in QP and Comp)
But to me, Ana is frustrating to play with, as, and against. Imagine if Mercy had a pick rate that high, there’d be clarion calls from the community for her to get nerfed. But there’s also a grudging respect since Ana’s a high skill ceiling hero, so her situation is tolerated.
MOST Ana players, I find, I cannot rely on to heal me in a chaotic fight. They miss shots, they try to DPS when their allies are critical, they can’t get line of sight due to her limited mobility, they get dove on and have to stop healing and defend themselves (whereas Mercy, Zen, Moira, Lucio, even Bap to some degree - can continue healing even while under attack). Good Ana players are amazing and I’d gladly take one on my team, but most aren’t and it’s frustrating.
But then when you play against her and get slept or anti-naded, those abilities can singlehandedly stop a push if used properly. Usually that level of stopping power is reserved for ultimates.
I’d like to see a rebalance of her kit like:
- Make anti-nade reduce healing by 50% instead of 100%
- Cut 2 seconds off bio-nade’s cooldown
- Expand the targeting hitbox for healing allies by 10%
- Increase projectile speed of non-scope shot by 25%
- Reduce her damage capability slightly
- Reduce sleep dart’s duration by 1 second but also give it 1 second of ignoring damage immediately after a target initially gets hit
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You mean, the massive projectiles or long-range hitscan, the aoe ability that you can throw into the enemy to win the fight, the ability that is easiest to hit on tanks and worst for a tank to get hit by than the other roles, and the ultimate where you literally aim near a teammate, press q, and forget about it?
Sure, sounds skilful.
People just making broad-stroke statements like these as a legit argument is hilarious to me.
If that were simply the case Ana would be without question the best character in the game. A must-pick. Top of the ladder would be Ana, pro play pick and so on.
Just please stop generalising. There are ample shields & abilities that completely stop it, then it’s on CD again. Random splash on the enemy team aint winning fights. Where’s the follow-up? What if you miss? You now don’t have it defensively for your team or for yourself. The enemy can see that and capitalise.
surprised this thread is still chugging alone after i abandoned it. Keep up the good work lads.
You’re literally making her into a moira with no self-defence or escape capabilities with these changes.
Honestly, after playing other FPS that do require more aim and mechanical skill as you said it, I do not think Ana is that hard to master.
Regardless of our own opinions, though, her anti-nade is too powerful. And it is available every 6 secs (if you landed it) and can even mess with ults such as Zen’s.
For me, they need to decrease the 100% heal canceling OR increase its cooldown. I don’t think this would be a nerf but actually a much neccesary adjustment, specially when you consider that 'nade literally requires alsmot no mechanical skill whatsoever and its benefits can easily change a fight as if it was an ult.
Just my two cents.
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no, spam = reward
Ana and Junkrat are the same. Spam left click, get value. And that’s not even including their utility that they have.
Only in the hands of a good player.
Yeah sure anyone can click on a Rein but i’d love to see you hit all those anti-nade on the enemy and sleepdarts on the nano-blading Genji.
That’s it? That’s nerfing the onlt two parts of her kit that haven’t been nerfed yet that’s a big ask and thats make her F tier taking away the parts of her kit that shine so no she doesn’t need any more nerfs at least not without a compensation buff that is of equal value
the problem with Ana is ontop of her really strong burst healing she has too much utility in her abilities
Anti heal is very strong utility and sleep dart has a huge hitbox and can shut down so many ultimates
she’s essentially a really really really strong mean healer with some really powerful utility alongside that
And when you compare her amazing BURST HEALING and amazing UTILITY to the other main healers like bap (only has lamp) and mercy (who only has rez) and moira who has absolutely no utility, you can clearly see why a lot of people complain about Ana