I’m not completely sure what you’re saying here, but for the most part it is reasonable to assume that if a player has special skins in their inventory that they aren’t using the default skins, right?
Obviously, players like myself intentionally not using skins for reasons other than aesthetics would be an exception to that.
That would be pretty incredible if that were the case. I know they are some players on this forum that have applied statistical analysis to huge data sets to demonstrate things about the matchmaker creating high probabilities of wins/losses through team arrangements, but I don’t know of anyone that has done that with skins. I’d definitely read through that post if someone does do research on that.
I don’t expect that outcome, but I’m doing to show how much I hate the matchmaker. If a couple of randos don’t buy skins that would have after seeing me pop off then I’d consider it a mission accomplished. Obviously I have no way of knowing if that will ever happen or not, but for me it’s the thought that counts along with the satisfaction of knowing I’m not playing along with the agenda.
The game still has lots of ways to making a huge amount of money through sponsors, advertisement, streams etc…
This was already true before Overwatch became F2P as there were loot boxes, limited event skins and OWL exclusive skins, which means we should have boycotted those already 7 years ago but we didn’t as we loved the game (and a lot of people still do).
To be clear, I don’t mind the new monetization as long as we have good content and as long as the game is in a good state. Whether we buy skins or not, it won’t change the game’s quality. Boycotting it by not playing, which also indirectly means not buying skins anymore would be the best way of uniting against what the game has become (and for those bad aspects of current Overwatch to change).
The problem is that a lot of people, if not the majority, only complain about the skins price tag but not so much about 5v5, the free-to-play system or the amount of new content per year and that’s why they’ll never settle to boycotting the game by simply not playing it at all… Their pleasure to playing the game prevails.
That’s why I think it’s hypocritical of them when they get in player’s face when they do buy skins. They think they’re somewhat less of a problem because they don’t spend money on skins or Premium BPs, yet they still support the game by playing it, which is the most important thing for an online multiplayer game to survive.
As far as I’m concerned, I haven’t changed my ways of spending money on Overwatch in 7 years. I always did and I always will as long as I have fun in the game. I don’t understand people that constantly criticize the game and that don’t simply quit.
The day I decide to quit Overwatch or to take a long break again, I’ll stop buying skins and BPs altogether, which is logical. But why would I force myself to play the game if I don’t enjoy it and criticize people that do buy cosmetics from time to time ?
The 50% chance to win each game matchmaker was already something the Overwatch community criticized before the game went F2P. It doesn’t have anything to do with P2P or F2P.
Not using recent skins would accomplish nothing, I’m not even sure they keep data of that and if you think not playing the game to prove a point to Blizzard would only kill the game altogether, then the community not buying skins or only equipping old skins would end up having the same result : killing the game or incentivizing the OW team to release less cosmetics or event worse : monetizing the game on current of future core gameplay parts of Overwatch (new heroes, maps, using chat etc…), which wouldn’t be ideal either.
They’re not realted, those are just your assumptions. But if you can, prove it and I’ll believe you.
We all did that, you included, when skins were obtainable for free from 2016 to 2022, as it psychologically stimulated you to play more hours to get enough credit to buy those skins. It was just as bad but you see it more as a problem when it’s about spending money to getting new skins than spending hundreds of hours playing OW to do so.
In my opinion, both can be bad but it’s up to us to have it under control. If you’re honest to yourself and feel like it has become problematic in your daily life (playing too much or spending too much on a game), then seeing a therapist might help.
Our society is cruel and if I had to make a list of what is going wrong in our society and companies that are a danger to our planet, Blizzard wouldn’t be at the top of said list.
I understand your anger but it comes from a very self-centered feeling that is related to your own pleasure in your free time (aka playing a game / leisure).
I said I’m not using skins for reasons I already explained and you’re over here writing an essay about “society” and therapists. You’re reading way too deeply into this.
Just answering your own essay that doesn’t make sense outside of you feeling great about yourself and undermining people that do think playing the game and calling for not buying skins or equipping them is hypocritical.
You will accomplish absolutely nothing by doing that. You’ll be quite alone actually. The only people that may join you are freeloaders that think buying the game once in 2016 should grant them endless new cosmetics for free for years and years.
They are deluded, unfortunately.
You took it personally, I see… I wasn’t talking about you specifically, just stating that a game like Overwatch always had that incentive that could lead players to spend a lot of money or play a lot, through cosmetics. It’s not something new. It’s been there since 2016. That’s where seeing a therapist may help those players.
Anyways, you have less than 50 posts and are already showing your real face. Who knows how many bans you got on your many other accounts !
Edit : you’re the one that mentioned this, before I talked about psychology and therapists :
your insane if you think matchmaker has anything to do with you wearing skins…
even if by some crazy chance it was partly based on that, it would be based on your locker, not the skins your wearing. If you own skins at all it could set it off.
I tried equipping default skins once for a week to see if matchmaking was any better. It wasn’t.
So either it doesn’t matter, I just had an unfortunate time, or it’s like you said - just having them on your account is enough to be matched with new players.
I think the skins thing is more of a red herring, but who knows, companies are wild these days.
They do actually have a patent for a system that would do this, though it’s not clear if it’s in use in Overwatch. Reddit - Dive into anything
And yeah, it would have to be based on your locker (which wouldn’t be very useful), because you can change skin between matchmaking and starting play, or you could even not be playing the character that you’ve got the “incentive” skin for.
It’s much more likely to have been implemented in one of their other games, where you have picked something that you have a skin (or similar micro-transaction) for before matchmaking selects an opponent for you.
Whether it’s based on the skins in my locker or what I start a match with is irrelevant to the intent of this thread and wasn’t mentioned at any time by me. The point is to deny Blizzard one of their financial incentives of having the (terrible) matchmaker function as it does: getting players to buy skins when they see others with them. Is this going to make Blizzard go bankrupt? No of course not, but knowing I’m spiting their goal instead of playing into it is enough for me.
You seem to understand the concept though. Also, thanks for linking that post and helping with the durrr conspiracy theory crowd that patrols these boards.
Shouldn’t the matchmaker try to give you a 50% chance to win your games? What about that do you object to exactly?? Do you want 80% chance to win, or? What? I’m confused.
Why do you care if someone sees something cool and wants to buy it? That’s like saying “I refuse to drive my corvette because people might see it and want to buy one themselves.”
That’s not how probability works my friend, lol. If you put 5 GM’s against 5 bronze players, there is not a 50% chance for the bronze players to win because “only two outcomes possible.” haha. You just don’t understand what words mean, or what?
There is no “double speak.” 50% chance for something to happen only means one thing.
Why would you want blizzard to fail? That’s completely illogical. You claim that you love the core gameplay of overwatch 2, but you want their developers (which let you play for free) to fail, and therefore stop developing the game? Think, lol.
I guess it will die if darkhobbit gets their way. But, that’ll show em! Can’t play the game they like playing anymore. Big brain plays.
I don’t know how to tell you OP , but I haven’t spent a penny in this game and I have almost all skins for kiriko / d.va + a lot of emotes and victory poses.
Benefits of having 4 microsoft accounts to grind points i guess.