Stop undervaluing good mechanics

it seems like so many people here are just jealous that they don’t have the mechanical skills of other that they go out of their way to downplay it every opportunity they have, while at the same time they praise every little basic thing that can be done without requiring good mechanics.

Stop trying to overcomplicate what you do and make it seem like it requires some galaxy brain to pull those things off while scoffing at people who have good mechanics either through pure talent or hours of practice.

It’s such an extreme bias that’s infesting this forum. Mechanics is an important skill just like game sense etc.

Don’t come around here acting like you aren’t going to throw a baby rage whenever someone who’s mechanically skilled just keeps you in spawn and you aren’t going to ask for nerfs because “they shouldn’t be able to do that”.
cough widow nerf threads cough
cough tracer nerf threads couigh
cough burst damage is bad threads cough
cough anything that kills me through mechanics is bad and unfair threads cough

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Agreed. Mechanics are just as important as game sense

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It might not be as evident as the other skills but when someone has good mechanics it very clearly shows as the overall potential of what they can do just skyrockets.

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sir, this is a casual game, mechanical skill aint the cream of the crop here

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This argument makes absolutely zero sense but thanks for confirming the bias tho.

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not true

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtJAvyVbh3k&t=972s

“first and foremost, you have to remember that overwatch is a team based 6v6 competitive experience”

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stop overvaluating them then

there is a group that downplays them, and another that makes them be like the most important thing in the game

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There’s a general bias here that downplays it.
There is a little handful of aim elitists that wants it to be the end all and be all.

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No, id say the groups are equally as big, personally

ive seen just as many people saying they dont matter as ones saying they are the only thing that matters

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I’d kindly disagree. Every pro aim elitist thread gets heavily out ratioed.

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If people like Genji mains had this good mechanics why they needed a buff mmm?

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If people were really as smart as they want everyone to believe then why did we get Brig that initially deleted Dive from the game? Just play smart and outplay him right? Why did we need Moira that can just slurp his health from 20m away with next to no aim requirement?

See dumb arguments work both ways.

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Dive wasn’t that strong, but simply needed a change in the meta because you just seen dive dive dive on owl, sure after that you seen just goat goat goat, but ‘‘sadly’’ is how the game work.

If blizz will be faster with buff nerfs we didn’t see owl with always same comps.

Now, even if I hate Moira hold-to-delete fire, buffing a hero withou even touching his said counters (they wanted to nerf Moira but again, even if I hate her I’m hapy such nerf didn’t went trough)

sorry bro here mechanical skills are important for sure but for sure even other heroes deserve to be in meta even if ‘‘easier’’ to play.

There are heroes not in meta since months, others that had reworks and nerfs in few weeks. But they didn’t buff them because they’re not nice to see in a owl? Or what?

what is the reason?

why can’t we have a torb-symm or reaper meta?

no better see Genji-Hanzo-McCree-Ashe all the times, I almost forgot who are the other dps-

I never said anything about them being meta or not. People here just can’t accept that it’s okay that good mechanics gets them killed and devalue it because they feel that it’s unfair that they died to someone who hit a good shot etc.

They are so intent on making it seem like it’s not worth complimenting, “widow just clicked on me” there’s no skill involved".

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A hero that can get you to master with only mechanical skill (I have personally met people who got 3700+ with the game sense of a gold player) in a game designed around game knowledge is badly designed.

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You don’t just need mechanical skill to get to masters with Widow. Good positioning is a very big part of it and you need to learn the mind games of Widow vs. Widow as well.
There’s also the target prioritization but all people here can acknowledge is that they just need to click heads.

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Implying widow takes anything above “above-average” to singlehandedly make or break games
Implying tracer’s main ability to stay alive and mobile requires any skill at all
Implying burst damage requires good mechanics

Maybe don’t try to put words in other peoples’ mouths when it comes to arguing. Characters can absolutely require good mechanics and still be way too overbearing. Burst damage isn’t the be-all end-all for skill, it’s literally better than sustain in every scenario. Just because you think a hero needs good mechanics, doesn’t mean that they actually do.

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While what you said is correct it’s also worth pointing out that a hero taking mechanical skill does not exclude them from nerfs.

It’s very possible and quite common in this game for the reward for mechanics to be disproportionately generous.

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AGREE SO MUCH, people do not appreciate the aim practice you need to have good aim mechanics, takes years and countless hours

I see waaay more they can’t accept when they die to something like Moira(I can see why, but to me both are just little whiners).