OW1 is easily one of the best games ever made, but if you went from what this forum says you’d think it was the worst game ever made. It is so unfair and stupid how people talk about this game. You are never gonna find a game better than this, so if it’s not good enough for you maybe find another hobby?
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OW1 from 2016-2018 was one of the greatest games ever made. OW1 from 2019-present is serviceable. OW2 is literal garbage. If it didn’t have Overwatch in the title there wouldn’t be a single person pretending to like it. It’s hard to make a game this bad even if you try to.
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There’s a reason the only people who talk about overwatch anymore are the active playerbase. You have a squad you typically play anything with, you could talk about playing Halo, TF2, Sea of Thieves, Burnout, some backwater MMOs? They’ll talk about other games as well. The reason overwatch never comes up is because we’re past 2017, aaaaaand I’m sure you can find plenty of video essays on the details.
I’ve gone back and forth playing comp in OW1 and OW2 Beta. OW2 is unfinished and needs a ton of balancing, but is still 100% the better game. OW1 feels absolutely boring by comparison.
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My squad of people that I met on Overwatch don’t talk about Halo, TF2, Sea of Thieves, Burnout, or any MMOs. Have you considered that your viewpoint is skewed because of the people you play with? We don’t talk about OW as often because it used to be the only thing we played and updated stopped, but it is definitely one of the common topics that comes up.
This, basically.
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The concept of OW1 gameplay is absolutely top-tier.
The execution left some things to be desired.
Honestly though, why does it make you mad that people dump on it?
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How is that someone has trouble understanding something as basic as the subjectivity of a gaming experience? I mean, look at the absurdity of what you’re saying: “I feel this way about thing X, therefore everyone else should feel that way too.” How does common sense not stop you from realizing that and erasing your post midway through?
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Because ow1 is objectively an amazing game and not as bad as people make out. I think if you think ow1 is a bad game then you have something wrong with you. It is like saying ‘‘The mona lisa is a bad piece of art’’ or ‘‘shakespeare was a bad writer’’
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Okay, but you can’t be out here spittin’ opinions like they’re facts.
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Not everybody in my (unmentioned) personal circles plays every single game together. People have varying tastes. The skewed part is that none of them play overwatch because you need to have some kind of lifeless bias to blindly appreciate it as it is.
I’m not closed-minded, though. List a few good things about overwatch that cannot be reasonably argued or counteracted.
Because he’s not wrong. Overwatch was an absolute phenomenon. It lost itself along the way, yes, but to claim it was anything other than a phenomenon, an incredibly fun and unique game, is you lying to yourself.
That’s exactly the opposite of videogames and other subjective topics work. There is nothing about Halo or Sea of Thieves that you like and I can’t reasonably disagree with.
You can say “this exists” but as soon as you say it’s good then it’s no longer unreasonable for someone to disagree
I’m friends with a lot of people who play Overwatch even if only occasionally. You’re not, and that’s okay! Different people like different things and trying to apply our anecdotal examples of friendgroups to the entire population doesn’t work.
Boring is better than trash. OW2 can’t be balanced because it was never designed to be a 5v5 game. The original maps and modes are not made for 5v5. The heroes are not made for 5v5 without being reworked to the point of being unrecognizable.
OW2 is like what would happen if some random player was allowed to nerf/rework everything about the game they don’t like to cater to their own playstyle. Except somehow the entire team at Blizzard approved it all. It’s absolutely baffling.
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Let me get this straight. Your argument is that it’s literally impossible for anyone to not enjoy OW? The statement “Overwatch is enjoyable” is an objective immutable fact about reality itself and is not in the realm of subjective opinion?
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When people are genuinely enjoying a game they don’t go out of their way to dismiss every criticism others have. It’s usually what people in denial do.
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I didn’t expect much else, but trying to dive into subjectivity on an objective topic when challenged isn’t exactly proving any points.
Good example, I like playing shield tanks, but games that don’t include shields - take TF2, which people often try to compare overwatch against - have longer-lasting good impressions. Hell, the devs are trying to kill the game, and they can’t.
I don’t really care for Sea of Thieves. It’s slow, monotonous, stiff, and runs out of variety suuuuuuuuuper fast, but it’s a great way to relax and just chill with people. It was originally built to be a console exclusive, so it’s not demanding of response time and player skill. It’s good for what it’s made for.
On the contrary, overwatch tries to be a competitive environment while also trying to introduce a ton of different play styles that all overlap and often don’t mix well, aiming to please a wider demographic and pleasing essentially nobody in the process. I’ve been a Sonic fan long enough to say that that’s not even a good idea on paper anymore, let alone executing it.
But hey, you can have your subjective “it’s good because I said it is and I don’t want you to analyze anything.” Just try not to be proud of it; that’s a dangerous habit to introduce into other areas of life. 
Genuine advice, not trying to be mean. Please do be careful.
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I don’t think you understand objective vs subjective… and that’s objectively true, I can see.
It’s not a specifically personal statement. Man did not say “Everyone loved overwatch”. What was said was that overwatch was a great game. Possibly one of the best of all time. And by all metrics and the data available to us, it’s impossible to deny that this is true. Between the fandom and sales and merch and memes and rule 34 crowd, they cemented Overwatch in the annals of history as a phenomenal game.
Did it maintain that status? Unfortunately no. But in its prime, it was, undeniably a force to be reckoned with.
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I understand exactly what it means. Look at post above this one.
Just because you say it doesn’t make it true.
Do you really think the game was being well balanced? With Sigma’s release generating the worst shield hell ever? With GOATs ruling the meta for years while they made absolutely BIZARRE balance decisions to try to fix it, none of which ever worked?
Balancing a single tank is easier. It just is. It removes variables. Less variables is easier to work with. The rest of the cast may not have been DESIGNED for 5v5, but for the most part are translating just fine. Most of them just need numbers tweaks. Heroes like Sym, Orisa, Doomfist, Sombra, and Bastion are being reworked because they’ve needed it desperately for YEARS. They’re unviable, unfun, or both.