And I’m talking about low eo
This has got to be one of the worst misconceptions about Moira.
She’s TERRIBLE for picks/final blows. You NEED picks to carry on low elo. If you DPS Moira your team will get steam rolled because of lack of healing. Not to mention, on low elo, people BARELY group which weakens her healing.
The best carry support, hands down, is Zen because of his discords and self heal. However you have to understand his orbs.
Went silver to diamond in a day or two playing only Moira…
It’s not about going dps Moira, she’s effective at punishing the enemy when they’re out of position or low health.
She is terrible as dps sure but she has near mercy level healing output and can finish off tricky players like genji tracer pharah. If you wanna carry with moira find a semi aggressive rein or orisa stay next to them heal any ally that come near and kill any flanker coming for your tank. Youll enable your tank to make huge plays get your ult charge fast and be spamming coalescence like nobodies business. You don’t carry by going full dps moira unless your insane in the membrane with positioning timing and playing against a bad team.
You start another post to cry about feedback you are given on your other thread, just wow… Not responding on tips in one post but continue to cry in another, and you are wondering why you’re stuck…
Moira is certaintly a carry hero.
Was it in this season and was it solo?
Why do low SR players try to explain how to carry when they can’t carry themselves?
No, because people like you straight up lied and ignore stuff i already answered.
My most played hero in comp is Zen, not Zarya. I have almost 5 hours on Zen this season alone. I played Zarya in the beginning because the meta shifted and I thought she’d finally be useful on my elo, she isnt. Literally all that happens is, i press grav and 2 dps ults go off and i lose.
Moira is so weak this meta its not even funny, which is why i barely touch her and only pull her out for extra healing if needed. i cant punish bad players like i do with Zen. With Zen literally its 2-3 clicks. With Moira, i play her more like was designed, which is giving out healing.
Im “stuck” due to the new meta, because laar season i was climbing 5x easier with Zen and almost hit plat. I realized that 95% of high elp advice from people are wrong unless its solo q supports/tanks who climbed solo, or top 500. The BS DPS/dual/tri q advice ive gotten literally kept me at silver touching gold. But when I listened to Kabaji, in less than 2 hours with 76 i got to gold and has been in mid ever since. Which doesnt surprise me becauee during off season, i literally play PUGs with diamonds and some masters and do JUST as good as them with D’va and Moira. So in conclusion, learn to read.
We lie?
You know we can see your stats right?
Today you went 15-15-2, average of 21 elims and 7 deaths per game.
Since today, the moment where you started your other post and me and others commented you had 4 matches on zen.
But keep finding excuses and calling the people that try to help liars, that will certainly help you climb. You’re stuck because you seek excuses for everything, but that’s fine. It’s not me that is having an issue with that, me and others tried to help you. You went on and offended multiple people who offered advice.
Lies… given she isn’t as strong as mercy is in the triple support comp but in duo support she is strong…
Her weakness is when teams aren’t grouped or dive but with the brawl style comp this tier she is really good
You did lie, you said Zarya was my most played and I barely used Moira and Zen. Check again, when LITERALLY Zen is my most used hero in this season. Not to mention, you missed the entire point of the post. Not to mention, the “your teammates are the same skill level as you argument” has already been debunked.
Every single time, I dual Q my SR goes up. It was even worse in silver and the experiences are dusk and dawn. But it shouldn’t have to be that way. The only reason why I got out of silver permanently was 76 and Top 500s IN LESS THAN TWO HOURS from their advice. 2 hours. I had like an 8 game win streak. And I’ve NEVER dropped back to silver at all.
Seriously, when I have Masters smurfs in my games who laugh how different the game is vs high elo it says a lot.
I’m not "stuck in high elo because I seek excuses for everything. Last season I almost hit plat, SOLO, I climbed 300 SR in a day from Zen alone. You aren’t “trying to help” , “git gud u deserve ur ranK” isn’t advice. This is why I really do hope to get in a high enough elo solo so I can help others with real advice vs “gitgud u DeServE ur RanK uR teAmaTes ArE ur SkiLL levEL.” Especially again, I literally play PUGs with Diamonds and Low Masters off season and do fine.
The moment you posted your first post, Zarya was your most played hero with 12 games. 6 W 5L 1D. We are not lying, you are. We can see your stats dude.
Remember that you are in there as well, you are one of those who play completly different compared to high elo.
Exactly where did i say git gud?
Me and others are giving tips, you decide to lie and offend us
your best chance to win as moira at least is to have 2 tanks that work together or at least don’t separate when attacking. build your ult with heals and attack to recharge/secure kills on low hp targets.
she is very much a carry hero in low elo because think about it this way isin’t being able to shoot a ball every 8 seconds that can either heal a whole team or do dmg to a whole team with a single press of a button a bit too easy if you say no you’re very ignorant because the truth is she is a low skill high reward hero wich is obviously like brigette a carry hero in low elo
Yes, I know i’m one of those different players as well, and i’ve drawn twice, lost twice, and won 1 against them as a Zen with around 9-10k damage.
5k-7k isn’t my average Damage, its the lowest and it will be GOLD. Several people understood this a problem with my teammates. The highest amount of damage I’ve ever gotten as Zen in a game was around 13k.
. You’ve literally said my teammates are around the same level as me you literally said do better and you’ll climb.
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If this is happening then the problem lies not with a single person but with the entire team. Apperently someone has found a situation where they can carry the team, that sym, he’s better and thus will climb.
Cites:
“It doesn’t change, your teammates are at the same skill as you. The higher you get the more reliable they get, you can expect they start to have learned the basics. The further you go, the more your teammates know.”
“Stacking is a solution if you don’t want the random aspect that come with 6 random teammates but your teammates will still be around the same level of you. More organised yes, better no.”
“Your situation exactly points out what me and others have been pointing out, if you are better you will win and thus climb.”
First off all, organization is lacking in low elo, so right off the bat this debunks the just group argument. I shouldn’t have to group to SR. And every single time I group its a different experience drastically.
Second of all, this is “git gud and you’ll climb.” Literally last season I solo climbed from 1800-2400 in less than 3 days. 3 days. Half the time was 76, the other half was Zen.
Third, i’ve explained Zarya atleast 3 times already
Fourth, people just casually ignore the fact I can play PUGs with Diamonds and low Masters and do just fine as D’va and Moira.
Fifth, I just want teammates who listen, seriously it’s like half of the people understood and the other half missed the entire point.
The main reason I’m not in plat right now is BSggite + problems with MMR in general. This is why every single day after I finish my session of OW, I’ll document my experiences.
Moira is not weak in this meta lmao. Don’t try blaming your team for being stuck in gold if you “can play to the level of diamonds and masters” also D.va and Moira are ridiculously easy to play. If you want to climb to masters/gm/top5 just one trick Brig like every other gold and plat.
No she isn’t. 8 seconds for a 200 hp damage orb that does 50 damage. You can’t punish bad players with her as well as a Zen anymore because of the new meta. The damage just gets outhealed. And I’m not the only one saying this. Even top 500s are. Mercy is just better. And More and more in my games I see triple support.
She’s definitely not a carry hero. At all. If your team can’t get it done, neither will you.
This.
I had a terribad [my own fault] episode there and Moira fixed it very quickly, like 800 SR back into gold+ quickly. As long as you know where you should be and where they shouldn’t, some heroes are free kills/free health/free healing for your team.
If you don’t want to deal with randoms you need to form a team or atleast a stack that you can rely on.
Again we never said that… You even put quotes up and still can’t read what we’re saying…
A good zarya will change the tide of the battle, no matter what rank you’re at.
Proof or it didn’t happen, there is no way that a gold player can keep up with masters without being a liability.
But there is no point in trying to help you, you keep forgetting that we can see your stats. You tell a story which your stats don’t add up with. You make claims that get busted by your own stats.
And you are telling that you are genuinly looking at your own plays while you can’t even tell the truth of what’s happening.
All I can say is, good luck in gold and staying frustrated at everything in overwatch
I should not have to group up to rank up. The experiences should be the same, they aren’t.
You literally said my teammates are the same level as me and just do better. Are you serious?
Zarya, no she does not and i’ll say it again. If you grav, both DPS will burn their ults. This literally defeats the entire point of Zarya. She’s not really useful until probably plat. Every single time, I’ve played Zarya I use grav, and both DPS burn their ults.
“Proof or it didn’t happen” Fine, off season I’ll do it AGAIN. Seriously, people in high elo assume they can roll over every single person in low elo as if its the same.
I don’t make claims that get busted by my stats, you just don’t read.
Seriously, do you read? I’ve explained my own issues. Jesus christ, this is why I hope I can get to high elo, just so people in high elo stop saying BS and actually look at observable reality.