Stop doing this to healers!

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I’ve had several games playing as Mercy where someone would ask for healing but then run away from me and out of line of sight, making me have to decide to chase them or not (the answer is usually no).

And its not like they don’t know im there because a lot of the time I manage to get my beam on them before they leave LOS. They could have stopped and let me heal but they did not. Then when they die they blame me for not healing them. Its so frustrating.

Basically if you ask for healing let me actually heal you before you run off!

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My personal favourite is when people are outside LOS and whinge about not getting healed, like bro I’m not risking my life trying to fix your stupid out-of-position misplay

I always tell them they’re out of LOS but they never listen

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Cough WRECKING BALL cough

Listen there are some really smart Hammonds who utilize healthpacks/get in Los. Appreciate you!

But to the ones who roll right up to me, spam for heals, then rolls out of Los before I can even get them to a quarter of health, why??? Bruh chill for 2 seconds. Im playing Ana, I can heal you quickly. Heck you can go far out you just gotta stay where my scope can see you.
But dont roll in to spam for heals, leave before I actually can, then spam “thanks!” When you die

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It happens to us all, unfortunately. If some fool decides to run off into danger and get themselves killed, that isn’t your problem. Their ever-increasing death count will either teach them that lesson, or it won’t due to their own arrogance.

Certain people trying to justify those actions just don’t know what they’re talking about.

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Not people getting mad and false flagging when they’re personally incapable of just backing off at a reasonable time, keeping track of teammate positioning and looking at their healer silhouettes game so graciously provides them nowdays.

I remember when only supports could see silhouettes through walls lol.

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let them die 20 charcs

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You get used to it…
Specialy Rein, charging away with last HP or Genji jumping behind enemy line somewhere on the roof spamming for heal.
You have to learn to ignore it, if you consider the risk, that following them might almost certainly kill you.
There are people blaming you, when they die while you have healing beam on them, so… :woman_shrugging:

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Every Ball players I got stuck with.

Seriously, there are some that rolled themselves back to me to get topped off, which is fine. But then there are THOSE Ball players that just whine about everything, including the team lack of heals when he dove into 6 guys, got hacked and CC to death.

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A pro tip for supports: Start prioritizing your position and heals accordingly. If someone keeps going out of their way to the enemy backline only to die again and again, it’s better to leave them with 0 heals and heal everyone else to full until you even consider healing that one player. In fact, you should always have this kind of priorities in place from game to game and you should always have high preferences of target over others. The most clear and transparent sign of a low tiered bad healer is that they have no priorities or control over who they heal and are purely responsive towards everything that is going on. If you play like this, it’s a massive burden for yourself and others around you

For example if you’re a Mercy and you have a Pharah in your team, you should just outright ignore some of your teammates who are in need of heals and instead prefer damage boosting Pharah over them. You can rely on your other support partner to take care of them, or more like you have to do so in order to get proper value out of your hero pick and to keep the team functional. If you don’t do this properly, then you’ll get called out for ignoring teammates in every single game you do this, and you can see this on the forums too. Of course if your pocket is a bad DPS and can barely hit a Rein shield with their shots, you need to know proper prioritizing and ignore them which might mean that switching heroes away from Pharmercy, or whatever pocket it is, is the best course of action

So in short it’s not enough that we tell them to stop. We need to force them to stop through in-game mechanics and proper priorities :slight_smile:

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I love when team mates demand healing then run straight into the enemy team before you’ve even turned to heal them. Or worse they run into a situation that is bound to get them or their supports killed (ex: open areas with a good Widow in play) and yell at the supports as if it’s their fault one or both of them died.

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Theres always 2 sides of that coin.
Many times healers will be ultra hidden on the back, on a spot where nobody can get them, but they can heal the tanks and "meh, I dont care about DPS anyway"

As a Flex player, I can tell you that a DPS will hide and look for the healer LOS way way way way way more often than the healer will get into an angle where he/she can heal all the team and not only the tanks.

:man_shrugging:

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When I play Supp I just DPS on Zen so…

I also think it’s fine to complain about lack of healing when we got Mercy + Off Healing in a Rush comp (just my experience).

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I hate when D.Va’s do this

they squeal for healing, I throw my healing orb up to their safe position… then they fly off somewhere else asking for healing again… then they fly to me spamming it and probably think I’m a DPS Moira while I’m trying to get to actually heal them

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Ah the joys of playing Support. I have to track my team and the enemy team so I don’t position myself in their line of fire. So when a DPS player yells at me for not healing him when he was out of LoS, I usually tell them to pay attention to your own teams position before doing something stupid.

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Just be patient and kindly remind them that you cant see them, therefore, can’t heal them.

As someone who has been playing this game for years, I still struggle (particularly as a tank) to stay in sight of healers because I’m always expected to be pushing forward and holding the line.

I never intentionally run from heals, I just get caught up in the moment, you know? lol

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It’s a common problem of people wanting to push ahead expecting heals to always come to them rather than just backing off for a moment to go the the supports, get topped off, and head back in.

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Yea… I myself have caught myself doing that to my healers (I should put “sorry” in my comms wheel)

Which is why i stay nearby and then say “I need healing” if they hadn’t noticed me and I do say “Thanks” after they do heal me

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I have great healing output as Mercy. I have even greater output as Moira. I do ok with Ana and terrible with Bap, but I manage.

Biggest problems playing Mercy as a healer, people expecting you to follow them unconditionally deep into the team. Like the charge happy Rein’s that for some reason want to 1v6 the enemy team and think both of our healers should keep him upright through the punishment he is about to receive, as if we can magically make him survive hooks, stuns, flashbangs, sleeps, nades, etc while being shot at by 6 players.

Yeah.

Not flying into that. Many of the other similar comments, about LoS and players asking for heals but then running away from healers.

Moira isn’t too bad, I can usually push more forward with her. The problem lies within the realm of knowing when the team is more healing dependant vs needing more damage/pressure on the enemy team. Sometimes your team doesn’t seem to get the kills like they should, so I might throw more damage orbs to pressure the other team and then you have times where you can do nothing but focus on healing with the occasional leech to restore your heal (just don’t let your suddenly dead team mate catch you or you get flamed for daring to leech at all)

Most of the time though, its going to be blamed on the healers. I have stood up for healers in a game where I know they were doing good enough or great. I actually do pay attention. When tanking, I try to give them time to heal me before rolling off as Ball or leaping away as Winston.

DPS have it the worst, because they are always trying to find angles. And that obsession with finding an angle sometimes leads to putting themselves out of sight of healers. They should consider those things, and healers should consider being in places that help most of the team, while staying out of the enemy team’s LoS. Very difficult task.

With Mercy at least for me, I find it easier to avoid enemy LoS as she can peek and maintain a beam and navigate cover spots a lot easier as needed. Most of my games on her I die less than a couple times. If I get a game where I die a couple times too quickly, I swap, since she is useless dead.

Anyway.

This is going to continue to be an issue, no matter what we say here, because players are players and most of us operate in tunnel mode.

Game on.

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Why stop? They know very well, that you can’t suddenly kick them out and get better teammates. You are stuck with them for whole round, whenever you like it or not.

And they also know well, that you can’t just let them die over and over, as chances of winning drop a lot that way.

So just accept it as reality - it falls upon you to save teammate, no matter how stupid one acts and how deep in trouble gets. Even if one pays zero attention to their health bar and uses visual effects to realise, that they got hurt a lot.

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Whenever people spam the emote for heals and they’re LOS’d, I spam ‘come to me for healing’ right back (if you don’t know how to do this as a support, you just use ‘I need healing’ while looking at the silhouette of an injured teammate), or ‘group up/hello’ if I’m running back from spawn and they haven’t realized. If they constantly keep spamming, I’ll say ‘no’ after, or squelch their chat.

They don’t really spam over voice, but if they do, I’d tell them they’re LOS’d, that I can’t heal them through a wall/teammate, or if they want a heal it’s their responsibility to guarantee that I can fly to them. If they keep dying in really horrid places, I’d tell them that in hopes that they’d learn/improve. If they gave pushback, I’d ask them to explain how the spot they died in gave them an advantage over the other team, or how it made it more efficient for our team to win.

As a wise someone once said: you can’t heal stupid, but you can res it.

And to be honest on Mercy I do live for ‘this is how I die’ reses, so absolutely drop in a risky position. It increases my fun and then I (and the rest of the team) can blame you for being there if I don’t pull off a miracle.