State of the tanking/game

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Used to play tank all the time in ow1. It used to be my main role.

Can’t make myself to play this terrible role anymore. Had a break from the game in seasons 10-11. Gave this role another chance in season 12 and its even worse. Which is quite surprising, since I absolutely hated the mauga meta and just stopped playing the game during it. I really wanted to grind the tank role this season. And now I don’t want to play the game at all.

Since they buffed tanks counter-picking has become even worse. Players (especially the new ones) are obsessed with counter-swapping. As soon as match starts they pull up a spreadsheet and tell you what you should and should not play against the enemy tank.

The community these days is very toxic towards the tank players. You are blamed for everything, You are the one who supposed to switch, kill, protect, be on the payload and bla bla bla. You are forced to be a team player, while you team is allowed to be very selfish and toxic.

This is the environment that developers have created and I don’t want to be a part of it.

Cons of this role just heavily outweigh the pros in my opinion. I like ow but playing any other game is much more fun that playing tank.

And now other roles are also less fun. Because some tanks are just overpowered, like dva, winston or rein.

I don’t really care about 5v5 vs 6v6 debate. But weren’t queue times the main purpose of switching to 5v5? Most of the time I have to wait 7-10 minutes for a dps or support game, while tank queues are just instant. I had the same experience in 2019. So for me not much has changed. Probably other players have better experience with queue times than me, who knows.

I can’t even 5 stack or 4 stack with people. I can’t 5 stack because no one wants to play a tank. And I can’t 4 stack because no one wants to wait 10 minutes for a game.

But wait, there is more. Tanking is just one of the many problems this game has right now in my opinion. Matchmaking is just all over the place, for example. Competitive experience in general is very mediocre these days. I have more balanced matchmaking in…

Ok, this post is already too long, so I’ll just shut up.

I like ow and it’s very fun when it works. But haven’t seen the game work in a long time. I’ll give ow another shot in season 13. But my expectations are low. Right now ow is on it’s way to become my biggest disappointment in the gaming history.

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Agreed. It’s amazing how much they have buffed tanks and people still can’t seem to enjoy the role lol

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Dva, Winston, and Reinhardt are overpowered but you got thrashed so hard you do not even want to play the game anymore. Seems legit.

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you think they would consider maybe buffing and nerfing isnt the solution to every problem they have :exploding_head: but using their brains is a little too hard for such a small indie company

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I’m not trashed. I’m to having fun. I haven’t said anything about losing/winning in my post.

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just because they are op doesnt make them fun to play. i honestly consider dva one of the most boring tanks to play even if im winning its not enjoyable

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. It’s just extremely boring playing overpowered characters and being able to do whatever you want. There is no thrill to it, am I right?

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saying what i literally just typed good man

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Under 5v5 you’re not getting rid of counter swapping for Tanks. That’s impossible unless removed switching in general. That’s not happening

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The tanks won’t be enjoyable until the devs go to a 6v6 format without passives.

The current changes helped but haven’t changed the counter swap problem for tanks.

The main issue is if your DPS are clutch you can get away with playing off meta tanks or the tank you want to play.

But if you have a week link on one of the roles the pressure ramps up higher on the tank to do their job. So essentially you have to switch to meta or counter pick to stop the bleeding.

I only play tank when I flex in rq. Because when I check all roles 8 out of 10 times I get tank.

After I knock out play 3 challenges I go back to open to pick what I want.

If rq had no challenge bonus I would never touch it. Lone tanking in 5v5 is awful. Even with the boosted hp

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I saw it, Salamander. I just do not believe you would magically want to stop playing Overwatch after experiencing tank if it was overpowered. That’s not logically consistent.

If you wanted to stop playing because playing against overpowered tanks was tedious, I would understand. I just feel homie is being disingenuous.

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Maybe I’ve explained it poorly? My bad then.

Or maybe you didn’t even read my post?

Or both?

Have I said that? I don’t think so. Overpowered tanks make community more toxic towards tank role. They make other roles less fun. Some tanks are barely playable, unless you are very very very good at them (basically one-tricking).

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i was just saying it because you responded as i was posting it :]

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No it’s more like tanks being strong or weak doesn’t change the fact the role fundamentally FEELS awful to play and how overly effective counter swapping is. The pressures put on solo tank. Having to eat every BS ability constantly.

ZERO to do with the strength of the role. Or actually, maybe it does because then you also have the problem where if you aren’t playing one of the top 2-3 tanks, you are basically useless if you are going up against a top 3 tank, just forcing mirror matchups.

For example, trying to play doom vs dva or winston. All dive tanks, but 2 of them do everything the other one does, but 50x better and easier.

You sound exactly like an overwatch dev, completely ignorant to the problems of the game and misunderstanding any feedback given to it.

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Yep.

Nope.

I do not control what you type. You called a spreadsheet a spritesheet, fam. It’s not my fault.

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This season I’ve had more time on dva than I had in the first 8 seasons of ow2.

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Sounds like you’re being sarcastic but its true. Only sweaty tryhards like being “impactful”.

Most regular people actually prefer to be under less pressure and have their actions be less consequential. People like just to just mess around and go for wacky, risky plays and when your character is carrying the whole match on their shoulders, you can’t do that.

That’s why DPS is so consistently popular. Its not as impactful as the roles that have the utility to capture points and win games, so its more fun because you can just do goof off and do whatever while the tank and supports figure out how to actually “win”.

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Oh yes.

If you’re not blamed, the enemy is blaming their tank. Thanks to replays I can see who actually sucked and stay sane. Best feature.

That’s blasphemy!

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That’s absolutely true. I have no idea why that is even common vernacular in the Overwatch community. I just want to have fun, bruh.