Start Us At The Bottom

If you are gold and make alt, it is almost certain that you will end up between silver–diamond after few games based on the luck. But if bronze player create alt, its almost impossible to end up in bronze and very possible to end up in silver/ gold, with some luck even in plat. If gm player create alt, its impossible to place above high diamond. And thats what is wrong with placement system.

Not only placement system and you rank is based on luck a lot, but it wont even allow you to place where you belong.

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Blizzard created a maximum decay or minimum decayed position for Top 500/GM so they could do it for every rank. Plats go down to 2000 Golds go down to 1500, silvers go down to 1000, Bronze reset at 0

They really messed themselves up by making the ladder work differently for everyone.

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Being towards the bottom myself, I’d rather they start at the top. I already have tons of smurfs and washed up gold players in my matches. I dont need masters alt accounts ruining even more matches.

I highly doubt that.

It is not common thing and normal players who smurfs dont do that. I guess only accounts sellers do this.

Idk man, it would certainly create a lot of confusion in player base. Might be interesting experiment for sure but I dont really see a point why do it. Blizzard did it for gm to get rid of players who were camping multiple top500 spots with several accounts.

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my understanding is that for us under diamonds, You can gain more than 25 sr for performing better

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I know some so trust me, its highly prefered way to do it from various reasons.

Up to 150 :smile:

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Better games at 2100.

It’s actually the trolls and washedup players, that make your life difficult. You and I agree there.

And consider: If you’re a silver player (let’s say) who fell into bronze, it’s a hard trap because the skill difference isn’t enough to pull yourself out; the trolls can easily keep trolling the same player over and over.

And it’s not a rank that is difficult to get into (if I ever wanted to, I could fall to bronze without getting caught), Without paying someone, I could never get into GM. I’m juts not good enough. There’s no natural barrier for trolling in bronze/silver like there is with GM.

A way to create a natural barrier and a break from the trap is by injecting new players and adding some randomness. It’s the only rank that would benefit from this sort of randomness.

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Kind of selfish dont you think? You will have better games at 2100 and players in bronze and silver will suffer greatly as everyone who is in gold+ will stomp them on the way back.

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Getting accounts from sellers can be cheaper than buying one from Blizzard. You’re underestimating how prevalent they really are.

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I think new accounts should start in bronze. And add back those massive win streak bonuses to get them where they belong faster.

Also people need to stop trying to devise an anti smurf system. It gets too convoluted. But truly new players on new accts should not be starting at the median. If they are smurfs…then they are gonna.monkey with any system you put in place.

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I understand why players smurf or play on alts, I am not saint in this myself, but honestly anyone who do not derank in stacks or anyone who derank to troll others who are not so good or make fun of them deserve insta ban…

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no. Just do it for new accts only.

Exactly. New players (truly new) will learn and develop to become average players, but they don’t start that way.

This insight somehow is missed.

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The only reason the Matachmaker even creates confusion in the first place is because they weren’t clear about it from the beginning.

Does smurfing deserve a ban? Sure.

But you’re one of the biggest proponents and excuse makers of smurfing on this board, so it’s a bit rich coming from you.

Put plainly, I don’t believe you for a second.

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It doesnt matter anyway. smurfs can be bested. they can be beaten. cheaters on the other hand usually cannot be beaten.

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This whole system just reeks of participation trophy without the actually participation trophy lol