Stadium yet again proves what the problem is

Many seasons ago when blizzard introduced overwatch classic it was clear to many it was superior. This is in large part due to the removal of problematic heroes. Stadiums success so far is following a similar pattern. Many heroes deemed problematic are not in the mode and to no one’s surprise it is superior to the base game. I cannot understand why they are adding back these heroes. Imagine adding zen with no hero swapping allowed for tanks. Sojourn who is widow with hyper mobility. And later also Brig who is a cancer to the game. This is just the beginning. Once truly horrible heroes like Sombra get added it’s a wrap. I just don’t know what universe these devs are in where they can’t see the problem.

I wonder and slightly suspect sombra is going to get another rework with her banrate being this bad.

I doubt they’d put her in stadium before that happens because that’s just double the work they have to do.

But yeah zen might just make everything a nightmare. I hope they don’t put anything at all in for discord other than something like… killing a discordered target spreads it to a nearby target…

Or powers to change discord to a different debuff. Not leaning into the dmg boost effect at all.

Zen in the game would mean players might have to mirror zen, just so they can have enough damage required while building for survivability to not get instantly deleted.

But sojourn is the biggest problem i see happening. Maybe freja too which we’ll soon see.

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Just say you don’t like change. Or adapting.

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IMO burst damage can’t be balanced in this mode. Sojourn is going to destroy it. Freja shouldn’t touch it, Widow (oh god) should never be added, etc.

Like, Cass is already a menace because he invalidates any kind of sustain build you create. Just two-taps on body.

Otherwise, I don’t think other heroes would be that bad. You can do things around the other heroes. Tracer, Sombra, Symm…god, even Bastion maybe. They might be completely fine.

Y’all really need to let GOATs go it was years ago.

There are problematic heroes in this mode currently lol

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My friend she killed OW1 by creating mega sustain issues and that was just with her base kit. Imagine being able to create a build where her inspire is giga buffed and she has more hp/armor. This is a massive problem to have a hero who hard counter dive heroes in a mode with no hero swapping.

If Stadium can survive Ana, it can survive any character. As long as they have items to buy that can counteract their main pain points, problem characters can be worked around.

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How will it survive widow one shooting you from Narnia?

We’re not in OW1 anymore.

We are in OW2. Hating a version of a hero that doesn’t exist any more and using that against them is odd.

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Easy. There’s already items in game that reduce critical damage. And multiple items that increase hp, armor, and shields. And add armor and shields. And massive amounts of overhealth. Seen a Moira running around with 1200 total health.

Is that prematch unbuffed health? Cuz overhealth from Lucio and other heroes that provide temporary ally overhealth can stack and do it. Trying to rack my brain to remember what items grant excessive health like that, most things are like 25 armor here, 50 shields there, etc.

This post seems very out of touch. Almost no one thought classic was better and stadium has been met with complaint after complaint that there aren’t enough heroes, dps que times are half a second because “there are no problematic (fun) heroes”.
I just really think this kind of thought process is like the opposite of overwatch. It’s a game about hero identity and it seems all anyone wants is soldier with slightly different guns. That’s just not what overwatch is or was supposed to be or ever should be. Bans have to go, more heroes need to be added to stadium and OW2 as far as balance and hero go are in the best state they have been in like forever.

I think the prematch hp/armor/shields was around 400 or so (going into round seven). Moira has this ability that gives overhealth for fading through enemies. It was stacked with a generic ability that gives overhealth when getting health packs. And there was something to do with having a fully charged ult that gave another bonus.

Will have to find the video. It was Ark_UK.