Stack transparency

Why was the ability to see player stacks (players that are in a group) removed from all game modes, especially competitive, and we are no longer matched with similar stacks? Now stacks can que into a comp game with a completely random opposing solo que team which is frustrating on it’s own, but why hide that as well? I think it’s important to know if you’re playing against a stack and a similar stack should be qued in with the matchmaking like in Overwatch 1.

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Because the plebs are not allowed to tell he Royalty their game is broken so they hide everything.

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Because Blizzard wants everyone to play, think about nothing, buy skins, and keep smiling.

They hid win %
They hid stacks
They hid levels
They hide everything so they can control the experience and use their shady tactics to up engagement.

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While i don’t see a reason to hide groups, i have to ask… Does seeing it really matter?

You still have to face them either way. Odds are you’re not going to play any differently if you know they are stacked. People don’t have to be grouped to play well together.

The only possible thing seeing a group will do is demoralize or tilt your team, if you let it.

That being said, groups should try to be matched against groups, though that will increase que times.

Just invite them to GROUP to see if they are solo or in group during the match, you’ll receive red text message in text chat about that. But I don’t think that info would be helpful, what you gonna do with it, just tilt more and find a better excuse for your lost? That is not competitive behavior. For your consideration, a group vs solos has always worse players with bad individual performances, unless you are smurfing and stomping games hard by yourself.

My stack is very transparent cuz we all in the lootbox rebellion

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You still have to face them, but you will also know who will most likely work together and coordinate as a small group. I usually can sense who’s together with how they work together, but confirming it is always fun.

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Wait, stacks aren’t matched against like-sized stacks anymore? How do you know? I assumed they still were, just like in OW1.

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It’s simple, they don’t want us knowing. Why? Probably because it’s matching unfair group sizes and it’s as bad as the rest of the matchmaking.

Blizzard need to start being transparent about the matchmaking and things like group sizes.

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Because no one likes waiting in a 20 min que just to play with their friends.

Yeah. You know who to block and report when they start. gaslighting in chat.

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So zero in game affect.

If u don’t know it u wont complain…
And non stack team give up at start when there against grp premade in OW1 + trashtalk the premade who “cant climb without 6 stack”

They dont want separate ladder for no reason so hidding grp is there best answer for less complain on it…

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You’re wrong, but why do you come that conclusion?

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Knowing a team has grouped players should have zero effect in the match.

Are you going to play differently against a normal team that just works together well, then you will if you saw the little blue lines connecting names?

I remember many times when i’d see a group on the opposing team and my team starts saying well, this is over, GG.

Then we end up winning. Conversely, i’ve been in 3 man groups and we still get stomped.

Now will a group play together better then randos… maybe, if they’re on voice and used to playing together.
But seeing that info up front will have no bearing. If they’re grouped, or randos who just know how to use teamwork, the outcome is the same.

All seeing it up front does is pretilt your team into thinking the game is lost before it starts.

Yes. For one, I’ll mute the entire group when they start pinning blame.

I already do that now, but I can’t tell if the four people grouped in my team are two duos or one four man so I mute them all.

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We should have solo only queue tbh. Us solo players just have to suck it up, or join in on bashing the solo players. But nah. At least at the top ranks you can only duo? Everyone under Master rank just has to deal with it.

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yes it matters. I want to be mentally prepared for when we are destroyed ofc. A 4-5 stack is a big advantage over some randoms and it shows a lot. Hell, in other games they have separate ques for solo/duo and stacks.
With friends you communicate better, swap easily between heroes, make strategies all that crap.Meanwhile when I am going solo i’m lucky if I can found someone who wants to talk… lord forbid if I ask him to change from hanzo (2-0-15) he would call me a N and says that i can’t heal him :))))))

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It’s much, much worse if that Hanzo is part of a group when you ask.

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Knowing beforehand who was stacked was great. It prepares you for a potentially weird a$$ game with skills all over the place. It prepares you for knowing to not try to reason with your team about anything at all, and to likely leave voice chat earlier than usual.

On the enemy team it prepares you for who might be smurfing and who to focus. Also who might be coordinating together. Like a zen in a group is far more likely to get help when dove. It explains a lot of things that you don’t have to wait until the game is almost over to figure out and yes it absolutely makes you play differently.

In an ideal world there would be a solo only queue but the old lines showing who was stacked was the next best thing.

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