SR clearly is meaningless stop acting like it means anything

This thread is true.

SR means nothing because every match is handicapped with MMR, which completely corrupts the win/lose result of players matches and distorts their competitive careers. More details in my thread on the subject:

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Have u not something else to do than spamming ur own thread in every single thread that appear ?

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I wonder even if it’s allowed to post just for the reason to crosspost your own thread.

Idk, but I’m reporting every time he spam

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I’d get that, there are alot of posts from him like this.

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/search?q=https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/why-handicapping-mmr-is-wrong-for-competitive-play/116369/1%20user:cuthbert-11649

Just only 3 other users posted his thread…

He seems to hate so much things about this game but he played it for at least 2years. At a point it is maso to do that

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Did my placements, 2150, I was the only one coordinating the team, 3 play of the games, 3 losses 2 wins. I guess I just belong here.

Honestly, anyone can reached diams, it is in fact pretty easy because the majority of player of this game have in fact no idea how to play the game in a « ok, not totally false… » way
So it’s relatively easy to climb to diamond if u really are thinking about how to improve and not just playing and hoping u’ll get better by accumulating hours in the game with brain off
U could also find a high elo player (master/gm) to teach u basics of the game (real purpose of each role, basic playstile of hero u play, cover, timing, ect.) or u cool on youtub, look at iostux vod review (don’t’ pass the taking part, there’s were u’ll get most of the game basics knowledge)
Also, look for « in depth guide » even if they are a bit old if they are « in depth » most advice on how u are supposed to play

Plat is really achievable, by just asking u « what can I do to « carry » and have a lot of value with (insert hero name) that does not involve me jumping in a unwinnable 1v6 hoping on my sick mechanics that are not evens achievable for an normal humain being to kill all the backline by myself all alone while my team is regrouping in spawn »

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do you really think you’re qualified to be judging how accurate the system is using the players with the least experience who are still in the process of learning the game?

also rein is terrible at carrying. your ability to carry at silver and gold is rein is going to be extremely low if you purposefully pick someone who requires support from his team and to be in close range to deal damage

my roadhog is 2750. i didn’t play on that account for a long time. over the course of 5 games, despite not being in placements, I was given a 2500 game that I should carry, a 3000 game where I got stomped, a 2600 game where I carried, and a 2800 game where I lost. the game gives you plenty of chances, though it hurts when you have throwers in an important game.

The real issue is that gold and below have very very low consistency so even though they give you the same range of games as I got above, you end up with throwers in half of them. So ultimately moving out of those ranks requires good performance or massive carry potential. Rein doesn’t get good performance when he isn’t healed or bubbled, so he is probably the worst tank for climbing out of the lower ranks.

I’ve done/still do all of the above! ha.

It’s strange how you described me completely xD, I DO have a GM friend who likes my tank play and I DO watch IoStux haha. My basics are fine I think, the problem is adapting to lower ranks I guess. Im hiding as Rein until I need to engage and everyone else is just getting shot moaning for a shield in the middle of the road.

If anything I think I have to dumb my play down and go full aggro Rein but then I don’t get the heals ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I’m going cover to cover, i’m doing short pins, i’m blocking shatters and McCree ults etc, yesterday I even firestriked a junkrat bomb out of the air!

Let me bloom Jeff. Let me bloom.

I disagree, rein is actualy pretty good at carrying in low ranks. Pretty much all tanks are. Its just sometimes little bit frustrating to play him, thats all. And he is practicaly meta up to plat :slight_smile:

well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I can carry myself out of < plat with every tank, but with dva, ball, and zarya I get about 85-90% win rate, while with rein I can’t even break 70% win rate. Maybe those gm players can get the ridiculous rein win rates, but every gm I watched playing in plat ends up swapping off rein for every hard match? can you guess where they go? zarya zarya zarya…

pretty much universal between the various streamers cause it’s the easiest most guaranteed way to carry the low ranks. in any case good luck. But don’t expect consistency from the low ranks when we still have 20% of games being complete throws due to massive underperformance by somone even in the higher ranks.

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Let me change my statement. I didnt mean that climbing on rein is faster that some other heroes, but i think that you can climb on rein well as he was recently buffed too.

yeah definitely agree with you there. I could climb with rein out of gold while one tricking him, someone who actually swaps when the enemy has 3 high grounds in a surround and his team has no zarya or lucio will find it even easier to get out of gold with rein. I Just really want to hit diamond while rein one tricking but I gave up.

instead I will just go roadhog / rein 2 tricking and sigma/winston 2 tricking. I find both rein and winston to have low carry potential compared to off tanks or ball. I have mixed feelings on the idea of pair tanks because good synergies make overwatch way more fun to watch, but are worse for the ladder experience and the carry potential of main tanks.

If they continue to make stuff in the vein of wrecking ball where you don’t require your off tank to actually help you in any way then main tanks will carry feeding off tanks easier, but there is something really fun about watching rein zarya interplay or a winston dva dive

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You can watch svb do it. It felt like you need a lot of team management in voice chat to do it which is not my cup of tea :slight_smile:

Yeah, U play to properly for ur rank I suppose
What we learn about game basics is true, in an environments where people know how to play. If u play rein and don’t get heal/ur team mate are juste suicidal and pick impossible angle and die, switch, try to coordinate them like twice, then go hog/ball/sig and just destroy ennemy team
Also, remember, do not grant respect to ennemy team, just be as aggressive and as brain off 1v6 until u get punish, then adapte
In every single game u should start very aggro and if u see ur getting punish very easly adapt
(Does still not mean 1v6 while ennemy team while ours is regrouping, more like « if u play tracer and they have a Brig, why don’t take the 1v1 ? If she does not know how to play properly u can outdamage/out range/brain her pretty easly »
In rein terms it would be something like « I’ll just swing like a mad man because if ennemy team are dumb they’ll be trying to absorb damage I make and not punish me for being over aggressive and sometime even charge and flank ult just to assert my mental dominance on ennemy team » T pose enable

If bronze, silver and gold are practically the same, then they need to adjust the rewards people get / the emblems and everything. Its almost misrepresentation of what “ranks” mean. - false advertisement.

We play for the reward system and the distinguishing marks people achieve. Maybe they should just simplify it more instead of too granular ranks but have a big bucket skill system.

New Bronze, New Silver, New Gold. New Bronze is the old bronze, old silver, old gold …

So the matchmaker is not perfect, (and people complain), and the ranking system built on matchmaker is even worse.

Maybe you’re boosted…