Speed Cap/Diminishing returns

With the new DPS passive, as well as Junker Queen’s ability, some heroes like Genji are running around a bit too fast. And as far as I can tell from the Overwatch wiki page on movement speed, speed buffs stack additively with no diminishing returns.

S̶o̶ h̶o̶n̶e̶s̶t̶l̶y̶ I̶ t̶h̶i̶n̶k̶ i̶t̶’s̶ t̶i̶m̶e̶ t̶o̶ e̶i̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ a̶d̶d̶ a̶ s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶ c̶a̶p̶ o̶f̶ a̶r̶o̶u̶n̶d̶ 1̶4̶0̶%̶, o̶r̶ a̶d̶d̶ d̶i̶m̶i̶n̶i̶s̶h̶i̶n̶g̶ r̶e̶t̶u̶r̶n̶s̶ t̶o̶ m̶u̶l̶t̶i̶p̶l̶e̶ s̶p̶e̶e̶d̶ e̶f̶f̶e̶c̶t̶s̶ s̶t̶a̶c̶k̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶g̶e̶t̶h̶e̶r̶. E̶i̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ o̶f̶ t̶h̶e̶s̶e̶ c̶h̶a̶n̶g̶e̶s̶ w̶o̶u̶l̶d̶ p̶r̶o̶b̶a̶b̶l̶y̶ b̶e̶ m̶o̶r̶e̶ e̶f̶f̶e̶c̶t̶i̶v̶e̶ t̶h̶a̶n̶ t̶h̶e̶ l̶e̶a̶k̶e̶d̶ G̶e̶n̶j̶i̶ s̶h̶u̶r̶i̶k̶e̶n̶ n̶e̶r̶f̶s̶. I didn’t know Lucio’s amped up was already higher than my proposed cap, so this idea would really just make it harder for people to get away from Genji.

So just either remove the DPS passive entirely, or make Dragonblade’s movement speed buff not stack with anything else. Or remove Genji entirely.

There’s already a cap of +75%

Ok that cap is way too high and doesn’t help at all. Don’t really need Genji’s running around at 175% movement speed+dash Dragonblading the whole team.

Well, a Lucio Amped Speedboost is +60%.

And Genji DragonBlade Speedboost is +30%

Then ya I’d go with idea C, Dragonblade shouldn’t stack with any external speed buffs.

I’m basically trying to think of something other than just removing the DPS passive, which everyone seems to want and Blizzard definitely won’t do.

If anything, I’d either make it so that

A. DragonBlade can’t be damage boosted, and return it to 120 damage per swing
B. Do something that makes his defenses lower, so he’s easier to 1v1 by Supports

I’d definitely like a nerf to deflect, but my biggest problem with Genji right now is he’s unstoppable once the DPS passive and Dragonblade are up at the same time.

The more I talk in circles the more I’m on the side of the rest of the forums, just remove or rework the DPS passive, it’s had a ripple effect that’s ruined the game, can’t even play Support without getting hunted by Genji’s running at supersonic speed.

Huh, hadn’t really thought about the speedboost aspect on Ultimates.

Maybe they should just make it so that the Passive isn’t active during his Ult.
Or just reduce his “natural” speed boost in Blade to like +10%

So if he gets a kill, he’s moving at +35%

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6 meters per second with a 30% boost in Dragonblade is 7.8.

Still slower than Sprint.

After a kill, Genji will briefly move at 9.3 meters per second in Dragonblade form. This is still slower than Flight or Wrecking Ball’s Ball form. And about the same speed Pharah moves at in the air, IIRC.

“briefly”, bro 2.5 seconds is a long time in the context of a Dragonblade ult, it’s effectively up the entire time after a kill.