Good riddance!!! All I ever saw was trolls talking crap and being toxic. Hopefully they put match chat on the chopping block next.
And then you get all the responses telling them to shut up or whatever and you donāt have a clue what the context is because you muted the spectator but not those responding to their nonsense.
There is absolutely no reason some random that is not in the game should be able to chat to the match. None. The friend(s) they have in the match can use discord or group chat or whatever. The tools are there for them. Why should others in the match have to work around some random that is not playing the game?
Iām still not seeing a reason for this outside of āI personally find it annoyingā. Great. Use the option to remove it from your own personal experience but your feelings on the matter shouldnāt predicate others. People spam nonsense in text chat all the time as it is, I just donāt care to spend energy worrying about randoās joking with friends they might have in the match,
Aināt the end of the world.
āI enjoyed insulting people on the internet and now Blizzard wonāt let me!ā
RIP spectator chat, it will not be missed. At best it cluttered comms. At worst it was filled with stuff people should keep to their private channels.
Idk if āmore snowflake likeā is the wording Iād use myself, but it is slightly concerning that weāve lost what, 3 ways of being social now that we had before? Post-game lobby talk, looking for group, now this.
And the excuse has always been āwell itās being used for toxic meansā
Thatā¦doesnāt mean you should just throw your hands up and go āHeck with it! Delete it because we got no better ideas.
You guys are the reason the everything is less funny than before.
Yes, definitely less funny
As always, itās the minority spoiling it for the rest of us. A small but gobby portion use it to be toxic babies, and they take over a comms channel and ruin it to the point it becomes unuseable.
LFG could be brought back, but Blizz need to then find a way to moderate and deal with the the people who used old LFG as a Tinder stand-in (and sometimes legit trying to hook up with minors.) Alongside the other set of gross people whoād post unspeakable stuff (the gist being āno women, no POC, no LGBT people.ā)
Post lobby was lost because the card system was lost. The post game wind up is just shorter.
Spectator chat is totally unnecessary. No one wants to watch a bunch of someoneās mates clog chat with their ājokingā and BM-ing. Discord exists, private group chat exists, whispers exist, leave the rest of us out of it.
We had general (white) chat for years and it just degenerated into a venting channel for everyone to scream obscenities into the void. It wasnāt a good look for the game so they axed it.
MOST of us did (and would) use those channels for their intended purposes, because most of us are sane human beings. But moderating an expansive number of comms channels to weed out the despots amongst us is a pain and I can understand why Blizz want to get rid, even if itās just to lighten their workload.
Iād rather they had fewer comms channels they could actually moderate properly, as opposed to many smaller channels just filled with dross.
Yeah, but unlike the spectator, youāre actually playing.
It shouldnāt be on me, the person already there playing, to mute this person who is literally just there to stir the pot.
SAme reason they got ride of post match chat.
You could use that time to tell your teammates or enemies that this or that was a good play.
It was always āyou did this wrong, thatās why you (or) we lostā
The best I did with that post match time was manage to inform some teammates why we lost because the tank didnāt tank once or twice. But thatās literally it. The rest was me trying to talk to people about why what happened. But it was almost always just anger time for most people.
Youāre lucky you even get to chat with the enemy team. Because there is no need to do that either.
Spectators donāt need to be able to type to ANYONE, so its gone.
i donāt mind if they can see the chat though.
match chat literally has zero reason to exist.
Why they let people talk to their opponents when they dont allow it in any other game is beyond me.
How many people have been suspended for āabusive chatā with orange vs blue text?
Itās actually ironic you mention this aspect for me lol.
I didnāt use it as a tinder stand-in purposely but I met the girl Iām engaged to because of the feature XD
But yeah. I get what your saying I just wish Blizzards entire design philosophy for social features didnāt basically equate to school logic.
āFive people out of a hundred did this. So the other ninety five of you? Too bad! Itās gone!ā
Itās frustrating that they donāt seem to even try alternative solutions.
But if we get rid of match chat the people who say gg at the end of every game they win wonāt be able to say gg at the end of every game they win. There will just be silence from them. Like at the end of every game they lose.
i mean, the struggle is real?
I see the issue as such, offense is taken subjectively from the side of the person precieving the offense. Blizzard allows, or should I say encourages offense of some, while also allowing the community to dictate the punishment for others the community deems offensive.
I wonāt degrade myself and use a term like ātoxicā as I am better then that. Fact is, a group of people are being censored, and another group are allowed to be offensive. Itās true, spectator chat isnāt really a part of this issue, but for some in this thread, they feel that it is.
That is the meaning of censorship. You may think itās a dirty word, and donāt want the word associated with your position, but in this case you are required to own it, whether you want to or not.
None of this is about being nice or respectful. Itās about saying the approved message, or say nothing at all.
I was sort of hoping the spectators would at least get to read the chat still.
No way! That is actually adorable, congrats on the engagement
I totally get where youāre coming from btw, āwhy should WE get punished for a small minority of people not being able to behave themselves?ā
Iām just honestly not sure what the alternative would be⦠In my mind that would be āhire people to actively moderate stuff like this.ā But I know that would be an enormous undertaking, and not one theyāre likely to do after MS just laid of so many people.
Maybe itās purely a cost cutting measure?
Yeah itās actually one of my favorite stories to tell lol. We just got to talking after grinding comp together and we were all like āYou live in Canada?! OMG ME TOO!ā and the rest is history XD. Weddings in a couple days. No better time than pride month eh?
But back on topicā¦you might very well be right. Considering the recent layoffs its entirely possible theres been some funding shifted away from having physical bodies on things such as moderation that we just arenāt aware of publicly.
Their report system is already basically fully automated, so if there IS a solid reason, thats the most likely one.
Which they canā¦still doā¦in group chat?
Really not hyper offended at all, simply stating why others donāt find the appeal of having a random person commenting and making jokes about their game/gameplay.
It gets to be annoying to people. Especially given a random who thinks they are being funny by joking or saying who has ults and CDs. Thereās a level of gameplay sabotage that they can casually just say in chat.
Not every single person in your games seeing random nonsense in chat find it fun. People have off days. I for one, donāt particularly mind as Iām not getting spectators in every one of my games talking. But I can still see the issues that arise for others who play the game, especially those who use TTS.
This isnāt correlated at all to the reporting system of how harsh/vulgar language is now all of a sudden a reportable/bannable offense. Itās about QoL for people who just donāt care to have a 3rd party input from someone not actively playing in their game. I hate the reporting system and nobody can have fun or banter in chat without being reported now, I totally agree, however itās just entirely different than restricting spectators from talking. They can spam, they can call out ults and CDs, they can distract from gameplay if someone has TTS onā¦itās more of a restriction to these kinds of issues.
I would completely be fine with an option to turn off spectator chat if there was an option. Thatās a MUCH better idea, no clue why they didnāt just do that.