Sombra: When will she get real buffs?

It’s tiring going against heroes that outclass her in almost every capacity.

Even securing a kill before you have to reload is tricky if there is a single wall or corner they can duck behind before the hack wears off, and then it’s probably just better to retreat at that point, because if you chase them their bigger gun will more than likely wreck your face when you come around the corner. Or their skills are back online and they stun you / kill you / whatever.

Will Sombra ever be allowed to have actual buffs that don’t come with “compensation nerfs”? Because I’m watching some other heroes get their buffs and I’m wondering where the heck their compensation nerfs are at.

Can’t buff Sombra, it would be too “unfun”. Well what about Sombra’s fun? If it’s such a big deal to make sure no one feels like it’s too unfun to play against a hero, shouldn’t it be as equally big a deal to make sure it isn’t too unfun to play as the hero? Because that’s what it’s like playing Sombra. Unfun.

Because none of us know how to play her.

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You can’t buff her too much because then she’ll have no weaknesses.

Oh wait, they did that with Hanzo.

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Probably Soon™

Now that she has infinite stealth and translocator, i feel like they might be even more cautious to actually buff her than before.

I hope they prove me wrong, and buff her soon.

Goodness, I could totally see that happening.

With Sombra’s recent changes to have infinite stealth, we felt giving her any more buffs would be detrimental to the overall health of the game. Therefore, Sombra’s animation delays both entering and exiting stealth have been tripled, and the voice lines can now be heard if you exit stealth outside of your spawn point to ensure there is plenty of time to react to her presence. This should bring her in line with our vision of no one playing her anymore so we can stop having to worry about actually balancing her.

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At least i haven’t heard people complain about her like back in march so at least they are not going to nerf her instantly after two weeks.

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Sombra state has much to do with all heros though. Like making a hero that primary isnt usefull or a hero that use skill combos, They kinda struggle balancing skills and weapons.

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:rofl:

The biggest buff with the changes is that she’s not strong enough to be nerf-hammered in response.

:rofl:

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This rework was the worst rework in the entire game thus far. It didn’t remove her weaknesses and she remains completely terrible. Her translocator having health was a huge nerf to an escape, and her “infinite time buff” for Translocator is completely unecessary, since 20 seconds was more than enough and managing time was fun. Her stealth just makes her problem of not participating in the team fight worse.

What were they thinking? Sombra was better as EMP bot really. Blizzard just rambles about how oppressive she could be, while having Hanzo in the game.

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Because 1 OP hero is better than 2.

I have a more detailed response coming later

Imo she’s pretty good. It’s Hanzo, Mercy, Brig being OP at the moment that also counter her, which makes her look trash. She’ll be much better after these 3 heroes get nerfed.

doesnt mean we need more of it.

Rework is one word I wouldn’t use to describe the changes.

It may just be me, but when someone says rework, I think something like skills that have been drastically changed or removed. Something about the character’s kit being completely revamped. Stealth wasn’t really reworked, because it’s still stealth, just minus the duration limit and the move speed nerf. The Translocator Beacon wasn’t reworked because it’s the same thing, except the duration change and it being destroyable.

Hanzo had a rework.
Mercy had a rework.
Symmetra had a rework.

Sombra just had some “buffs” and nerfs.

But how is she in any way different or better than her previous iteration? Now you can pop stealth or beacon whenever you want. That’s it. It didn’t magically make her stronger than before. She just is.

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Uh, i hope that your detailed response covers this well. Blizzard is terrible at balancing but it’s completely possible to not make her broken.

We don’t want her to be OP. We want her to be worth picking over another hero every once in a while. You see, if she becomes OP, we don’t get to pick her. :wink:

She was very good before too. I finished season 9 with a 64% winrate in Diamond maining her for 21 hours. My performance dropped significantly (53% winrate) in season 10 when OP Hanzo and Brig were introduced. Current season I’m at 62% with 6 hours I think.

IMO what needs to happen is they reduce her spread to 2.2 (with Brigitte and McCree your in danger of stuns, Genji can poke i.e.), and make her speed 60%. The speed she’s at is so slow in a game like OW, overall speed doesn’t matter, every second does. So it isn’t a game about efficiency, it’s a game about NOW. That’s what needs to happen IMO.

And I don’t doubt your claims, but you’re proving the point I’m trying to make.

These changes didn’t do anything for her. Yes, the heroes you listed don’t help her situation, but neither did the supposed buffs.

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She objectively sucked in season 9 looking at all stats. Even if youre great with her, doesnt mean that she was overall great.

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You are right. The buffs didn’t really make her stronger, they just made her easier to play, which does equal a slight improvement imo. I don’t agree with a lot of Sombra players who claim that if you were good with her you could always manage her timers easily. There were a lot of situations where I struggled because of them, and I’ve seen Fitzy get screwed plenty of times as well, even though he doesn’t see it very clearly now.

I think Blizzard believes Sombra is good and that people are not playing her correctly, which I know may sound cynical, but I agree with. So they made her more accessible in an attempt to lower her learning curve. Sombra is the hero with the highest game sense requirements, and unfortunately, good game sense appears to be harder to attain than good mechanics (although excellent mechanics are harder than excellent game sense). That’s why GM players can play a decent Sombra, without too much practice. That being said, I repeat she is BAD in this meta, but that’s because 3 OP heroes exist in it, that also happen to be strong against her.

Its a meme. Sombra isnt a new hero anymore. People would have figured her out by now. She is simply bad, people need to acknowledge this. I’ve spend around 180 hours on her in order to learn her, yet i can get similar results playing other heroes i have barely played in comparison.
She is high effort low reward, plus extremely buggy on top of it.
Only part of her kit which was and is still really strong is her EMP, because its the only reliable thing which also has high impact on the game.

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