I think it’s very unfair for a hero to be invisible for most matches and targets any squishy to just translocates out whenever. There needs to be something to punish this. Like the longer she’s in stealth mode she slowly starts to loose HP. Once she gets out of it, the HP remains the same until healed or finds a health pack. Or lose the virus ability altogether, reduce her damage output or give her less ammo. I really like the idea of her losing HP the longer she’s invisible. Just a thought.
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She’s getting a huge nerf in 9 days. Why aren’t people more patient? You know it’s coming.
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Another day, another Anti-Sombra thread.
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man… the problem is that the nerfs is because tanks are getting buffed?.. you know what also come with the tanks buff? yeah. More hardcounterplay against tanks…
if tanks are stronger then the enemy team will not pick only 2-3 tanks hardcounters, now they will pick 4-5…
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They should rework Sombra to a support. I’ve been saying this since 2020. There will come a day it will happen for real.
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Think about it though, if there’s anti-Sombra thread, don’t you think there’s an issue that needs to be resolved? Any hero that can just disappear and disengage like that during a fight should be punished. Same goes for Moria. IMO.
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Yeah despite all the things you listed as her strengths, she’s still mid.
I’ve seen some horrible suggestions, but my god you take the trophy for this one lol.
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Ahhh spoken like a true Sombra main. Of course you would disagree with something that makes sense to everyone but them. Why is that a bad idea? Tracer is the most punished hero’s in the game. Lowest HP, 13 second cooldown on recall and you can still see her. And no one complains. I don’t think punishing Sombra for being invisible all game is so bad. How about instead of having her lose HP, give her a 20 second cooldown before she can go into stealth again or when in stealth mode, the ability goes away after 18 seconds so those players have to use their time wisely.
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They already do pick all tank counters. That’s why tanks are getting buffed is because literally everyone counter picks the tank every single game. It’s miserable. So now tanks are basically being buffed to play directly into tank busters because they already do.
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Except this isn’t true because the way tanks are getting buffed doesnt encourage more counters. soldier will now do more damage against tanks unless you only hit headshots. It’s not a raw survivability buff, just a buff against tank busters specifically. Some heroes will do more damage against tanks not less
Sombras damage against tanks is pitiful with these changes. Yeah the hack is annoying but her damage encourages her to go after Squishies a lot more
If I had a dollar every time someone claimed I’m a Sombra main because of my icon, I’d be rich.
I’m a support main. 
Player icon =/= who people main, and I updated my icon months ago and it won’t update.
Your suggestion is objectively bad and stems from nothing other than, “I don’t like it”. That is a horrible reason. I’m going to disagree with it; add on how poor these suggestions are, of course I am! I disagree with bad balance suggestions for any hero, even the ones I hate lmao.
Because it is an ability that can be broken by tickle damage, that she can’t do anything while she is in, and you are suggesting basically punishing her extensively for using it. Name another ability in the game that actively punishes you or damages you for using it.
You’re also asking a flanker to be punished for using their flanking move. By your logic, damage Tracer for using blink. And if you would like to nerf that on a mid-tier hero, then you need to buff Sombra’s damage heavily to compensate because otherwise - why use the ability?
And she’s still one of the most powerful DPS, if not #1, and she’s dominating the game right now. You are comparing that to Sombra who is mid-tier at best.
I would not use the word “most punished” when describing Tracer. The HP changes made her much less risky and much more powerful.
If you dislike a hero, your suggestions are going to be biased and be too heavy-handed. I have several heroes I dislike; I’m not going to suggest things. I will be inherently biased and I will be clueless about the flow of that character.
My recommendation is, if you find a hero frustrating - don’t suggest changes. Because that’s how you get these changes.
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There is… if she is in stealth, her team is at a number disadvantage. Sombra makes it so her team is at a constant 4v5 if she stays in stealth.
She literally can not do anything while in stealth.
Sure, if in reverse she gains a speed and damage boost, I am all for it.
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Well if you think about it, most people change their icon to the hero that they usually main as. It’s a good assumption to think you’re a Sombra main based on the detailed comments you’ve been making to go along with the player icon. I dunno many people who have a player icon that they don’t main as. Eh to each their own.
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She won’t. They will buff Hanzo, Junkrat and Echo in dps role
Yeah the problem is that now will be imposible to play against x tank with no hardcounters and also the tank experience will not chante a lot. The cc stack still exists
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If sombra is invisible all game that means she doesn’t shoot, hack, virus, or EMP. Which is throwing.
I think there’s a pretty huge difference between characters that have to use activated abilities to flank and characters that have a passive that just lets them sneak to wherever they want, is active after only a few seconds of being out of combat, and effectively turns the game into a really paranoid affair for the opposing team.
I want to be extremely clear that I’m not speaking to Sombra’s power level – she’s actually balanced competitively speaking – but the UX of Sombra is absolutely atrocious and polarizing gameplay.
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She is because the armor changes drastically reduce her damage to tanks. It’s 50% damage reduction for Sombra against armored targets.
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There are anti-everything threads on this forum everything should be nerfed then by your logic.
It’s the OW forums it’s a hive of negativity and complaining into the void.
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I know plenty. And my profile is public. I mainly play support (Ana/Kiriko). When I play DPS, it’s lately been Tracer or Ashe.
I don’t have a hard time against Sombra. Everything she does, I can usually shut down on support. She is annoying but she is not overpowered.
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