Sombra haters/enjoyers need to come together

I am so sick of the vitriol and tribal warfare going on in these forums. It’s tiring and stupid. The truth is that the devs should have never reworked her into a permanently invisible assassin going into Overwatch 2. It was a stupid design decision, most Sombra players never wanted it, and now that they’ve gotten rid of it, her kit can’t function. They’ve gotten rid of her hacker identity and her identity as a flanker. What we’re left with is a nothing burger of a character. A shadow of her former selves.

They shouldn’t have turned her into a permanently invisible assassin, and they shouldn’t have gutted her when they realized people don’t like that playstyle. They shouldn’t have created a character with 6 seconds of ability lockout either during Overwatch 1. Why it took them so long to learn that designing a character around being a permanently invisible assassin who can blow supports up in two seconds is a bad idea, I have no clue.

They need to strike a balance between her old utility-DPS playstyle and her invisible flanker playstyle. One that isn’t too strong or frustrating at either one. I’m sick and tired of Sombra being juggled between two different extremes, when the answer has always been clear. Meet somewhere in the middle. It’s not even that hard to do. Have clear windows when she can use invis and flank, and clear downtime where she sits back and uses her utility for her team.

Can we all just collectively agree to blame the devs and not Sombra, Sombra players, or players who struggled or were frustrated with playing against Sombra? It’s their stupid design decisions that have led to this division. There is plenty of common ground here, and there are ways to give the character back some kind of identity without her being an absolute nightmare of a design. Come on gang, I’m sick of all this fighting.

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I still think it’s funny that the original Overwatch team, I believe it was Jeff, said that Sombra wasn’t and isn’t going to be turned into an assassin.

Then they tried it in OW2 and it was almost universally hated, but they double and even triple downed on it. Now no one is happy, Sombra is garbage, and we’re no closer to a character that everyone likes or at least tolerates.

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Eh not really no, more so that the people that already didn’t like flankers really didn’t enjoy the hero that set-up easily around them.

Especailly in the lower ranks.

Large chunk of the cast sombra struggles to kill, and or even attempt to interact with in alot of cases.

And then theirs the players of heroes that counter her, or even play her.


Be it their was room for more counter play to be added,

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Always has been

The issue is that you can’t run around while invis, on top of melting enemies without, full “team effort”

No other single character has such requirements in order to stay alive. Not-a-single-one

And specially for such a low cooldowns overall, for repeating the same aggression; over and over, and without Diminishing Returns. Like Discord for example.
You just keep spaming the same target; its all good

No other single character has such requirements

Consider that the only time we see such behaviour, is when someone is ulting

And Sombra, is not ulting my friend. She is just passing by

So, you now have to choose. You continue to run around while invisible, or you delete players without awarness

It all comes down to trades

Pre re-rework, Sombra had none

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The issue is for sombra to be really good at the skill level of genji & tracer she needs to be broken.

Her kit is utter garbage/toxic - there is literally no way to save that kit either than making her a total mess which she was last season or now this which actually requires you to have skill.

Right now i have sombra’s who are runnin right into the middle of the map and getting cauight because of their fade.

Then there are ones which are hiding behind a wall and pressing hack and waitin for cooldown to reset untill the hacked enemy does not die.

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Appreciate the olive branch. Accepted.

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So the compromise is that in order for Sombra to be fully effective, she has to go invisible, but in doing so, her escape ability goes on cooldown, just to kill some clueless player, while she has no way of knowing who’s not paying attention, making it more about luck than skill? Great compromise. They might as well give me an ability that rolls a die, and every time a 6 is rolled, a random player on the enemy team dies.

Besides, what you’re describing is something that applies to assassin Sombra, which nobody wanted in the first place.

Yeah, but we don’t decide that

Its the developer who tells you what the charater is intended for

And if someone doesn’t like it, they can just pick something else

No, won’t happen.

The hacker identity wasn’t any better. Still annoying, still bad, it was just worse than the previous version for casual players.

Previous assassin version was annoying, was bad, was just easier for casual players to use. And they used it for less than stellar intentions.

Sombra is just a bad character and reworks are the only way to find a middle ground of good, not excessively difficult, and not excessively annoying.

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Why was she even reworked from overwatch 1 to overwatch 2 again?

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Fine second ability lockout on a tank in 5v5 would be broken?

If I remember correctly, this was due to her ability translator. People were annoyed back then that her translator could be placed across the map. And with this, she could escape a fight to virtually anywhere in the map and reset. Not allowing any easy way to kill her without one taping her or stunning her.

As the AKJ of Sombra, I extend my hand graciously to all those who seek it’s warmth.

I believe the culturally approved term is nothing Taco. Sombrero would never waste the beef on a burger.

Tee hee. I see what you did there.

I was ahead of my time.

:muscle::smirk:

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then OW2 is going to be a dead game in the relatively near future… i give it 3 years tops…

because haters around 2021 ish were demanding a dps sombra. Mains have never had a say in her updates in the history of the game.

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do you mean ''another 3 years ‘’ ?

Toasty handshake accepted, brother.

Oh, you’re right! She would be a nothing burrito or nothing tostada at the very least. Lo lamento. :pensive:

HEEHEEHEE! This guy gets it!

Together we can create the world’s most peaceful lynch mob. :blush:

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The developers had said that she wasn’t an assassin. Then OW2 came along, and suddenly she’s an assassin. That identity was given to her, and now they want to take it away again.

Un “taco vacio” if you will.

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