Hacked heroes do less damage
Do less healing
Have reduced shield health
Cannot activate their ultimate
Abilities have no boop or stun effect
This is much much more fair and fun on the receiving end and in exchange Sombra can have any number of buffs and not be broken.
Snipers are indirectly nerfed as they can’t just continue to duel effectively.
Sombra shouldn’t be a character with lopsided matchups , instead she should be more well-rounded against every hero.
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It’s not supposed to be fun on the receiving end.
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How is this better than having no abilities?
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It isn’t a matter of it being fun, in my opinion the hack duration needs a significant nerf. Silencing is extremely powerful in literally any context it exists in, in most game a silence lasting longer than two seconds is basically a free kill in PvP.
The only reason Sombra has a kit as powerful as it is, is due to her never being picked and her being a teamwork reliant hero in a game balanced around solo queue. In any other game she would have been nerfed in to the ground.
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Generally yes but silence usually stops all healing in those games. Not the case here except for lucio. If you also lost the ability to shoot your primary you would have a point
Changes for her are probably coming but they better be real careful with nerfs and buffs at this point, especially with her.
The only moment where hack does like… anything other that even the field for Sombra is when she isnt alone, in which case I prefer hack to being grey screened from 10000 miles by a headclicker, any day.
My point still stands. You’re still left as a brick for five seconds, and in Overwatch that’s a bigger deal than you think. A tank who loses his ability to assist his team can cause an entire comp to fall apart, healing or not. Especially if that tank is the primary shot caller. Then there’s characters like Tracer, Doomfist, and Genji who are turned in to basically free picks after being silenced.
Silencing holds the same level of power in this game as any other, and I get tired of seeing that excuse because it holds no weight.
You’re also ignoring the fact that all healing has been tuned down in some way, unless your name is Ana of course. The fact of the matter is, healing in Overwatch as it stands isn’t as strong as it is in the other games any way.
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A brick is incapable of doing anything. Get behind cover or use your weapon. Hacking a good tracer as sombra? Good luck… any tracer worth thier salt knows a blink will instantly break hack. I have plenty of time of sombra too. A main tank loses shield? Good thing you should have a 2nd to cover and mitigate damage.
All I am getting from you is you’re unwilling to look at this objectively, from a macro sense of the ability and its overall core design. I get it, she’s one of your mains, but her design is not healthy for any ability based game.
The fact that she was the only proper counter to GOATS during that horrorfest of a meta should actually be a testament to her kit’s power.
if only people took that approach with doomfist and genji they wouldnt be garbage
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Just because i dont agree with you doesnt mean im not being objective. This games original vision was about switching chars to counter people which sombra fits to a T
I have plenty of high level pvp in games and i think its fine. It is a team game after all
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I mean, you’re the one not being objective if you go around claiming that a hero is bricked when hacked. That is just factually not true. Hard CC does that and hack is not hard CC.
She wasn’t and it isn’t. Pharmercy, for example, was also a proper counter. It is what the key to success was for the Shanghai dragons used to defeat the San Francisco Shock, a superior team. It is what teams were using to keep Goats in check prior to the support patch, which is why we got double sniper first. And it is one of the reasons that GOATs never came to console.
Not true. Plenty of scenarios within games where a silence doesn’t really matter, including in this one. For example, a hack on Soldier 76 means very little. And is not extremely powerful.
You can’t admonish people for not being objective and then overly exaggerate
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would hacked widows still one shot
Are you playing a video game? That’s ALL A GAME IS ABOUT IN THE END?!?
FUN? THAT’S LIKE, THE POINT OF PLAYING?
It’s not supposed to be complete bs either. But here we are.
Not really, genji and tracer and doomfist and hammond are literally bricked when hacked, and those don’t exactly play around cover and aren’t supposed to, tanks are supposed to be cover for their teammates and they are the front lines, they will take hundreds of damage before they even get to cover.
I think it would have been hilarious if hack randomly switched controls of strafing and crouching/jumping. You press forward but it’s jump, you press back and you strafe right. Using abilities could put them on small cooldown instead, so if you really wanted to ult while hacked you could, but after waiting for two seconds or something.
Well devs literally said that those debuffs felt too powerful in testing so
Don’t expect them any time soon
Any kind of debuff is “Not fun”, they arent meant to be fun for you
they are meant to give the other character an edge
i hate this notion that all stats effects are un-fun,
ANY kind of CC is unfun.,
the question is if its UNFAIR or not (aka balanced)
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