Solo queue when

Any thoughts on if a solo queue will ever be implemented?

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Would be one of the most pointless additions to the game, so can’t see it happening.

Why would it be pointless?

Look at how matching works, and how the game is played. Completely unnecessary change.

(that is before you factor in the statistically players have better win rates when playing solo, so there is no actual advantage to stacking out side of the highest ranks (although it is more fun)),

I agree with the guy; matchmaking doesn’t work, and I hate being placed in or against a premade stack. They are often toxic, spamming, and refuse to play team because “they” are the team within the team. I’d welcome playing games where everyone is for themselves. I think it could heal the game, but on the other side, they cannot split the base even more, open role, role lock, both for competitive and quick play is a lot already + now stadium and upcoming stadium qp. I also believe stacks are a problem, and not just because the people in the stack are often very different division/potential.

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Doesn’t it.

I play a lot, and the evidence on my screen suggest it does work.

You’ve listed a lot of player behaviour issues, so that’s not matchmaking.

Right…your statement doesn’t make sense to me. How is the game being played change that I would prefer to play with inn a solo queue instead of in stacks of players that are more focused on their stack than the whole team?

Where can I view these stats at?

Give people an option in the settings that they can toggle to play in a solo only queue or get teams with a stack. I would prefer longer queue times for solo queue, and others may not. This would be a decent option I think.

If you prefer to play solo, queue solo. You’ll be matched accordingly.

Read dev interviews.

You already have that option. Just don’t join a stack.

Responding to middle quote about winning solo

This has absolutely been my experience. My solo account is usually high diamond to mid masters (and peaked GM) and my group account is low to mid diamond and has even briefly fallen to plat a few times. At the extremes, plat vs GM, this is a STAGGERING gap.

Having said that, a soloQ only queue wouldn’t help much and would just extend queues.

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It should be, it won’t be. Don’t respond to those with thousands of posts.

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It doesn’t.

I play a lot as well, and the evidence on my screen suggests it doesn’t work.

You can also inspect profiles of some people you played with, where you have a piece of direct evidence that it DOESN’T work correctly. Stacs often contain different levels of capability, the matchmaking tries to balance it by placing solo Q from higher divisions/leagues if a similar stack is not available. This ain’t a solution, that’s trying to put the weight on better players who often cannot carry the whole team and end up deranking. This is why you sometimes see matches where one team dominates so much that they even spawncamp the other. Those matches would never happen if matchmaking worked.

that sound good but I think they won’t do it, because it is so good that everyone who play solo would toogle this :smiley: means the stack would never be placed anywhere which sounds good to me as well but you know how it is, they like when people play with friends.

What on the profile indicates anything about match making?
(Remember, the match maker doesn’t have access to see profiles).

Sounds like you described it working, but then mentioned performance which I’m not sure is relevant to match making.

Their actual current rank, maybe?

Relearn how to read.

Which mirrors there MMR. You’re matched on MMR. If they in your lobby. You have similar MMR, or the stack average is similar to yours.

I re read it. It’s a description of things working.

This would still split the playerbase.
And it would effect everyone, not just the people who toggle this option.

which is not working matchmaking. This should not be intended because if two inflated players occupy, let’s say both DPS, you will not win, you cannot possibly carry a match with zero team pressure, and you end up deranking. It is pointless to argue about it, because this is a known “issue”, and not just because this is not the only thread addressing this. The problem is even bigger with Stadium, where your league/division doesn’t matter at all, nor if you play with/against stacks. Overall from my perspective the game is trying to punish capable players while wanting them to carry bigger weight, and I understand why they think it is good for the game, because it feels good when you carry no doubt about that, but it allows to create very toxic situations when you actually want to climb higher, you can have huge lose streak just because of bad luck like from the example I mentioned at start. I think/believe people would rather play rank/balanced matches and do not experience the carry situations, it is not worth it when the next match you can end up being spawncamped.

MMR is just a number. Not match making.

Match making only matches you based on that number. If you get a match, everyone solo and every stack average will be around your MMR. It works. It has 9 years of it working.

Blame something else. Like, I don’t know. The peopel playing the game perhaps.

Well maybe it’s time to consider what is happening in the game and why people feel bad about it. Obviously, it is not good; every other post on this forum is basically about this. So yeah, on paper it might work, but in reality it doesn’t, and people don’t feel good playing the game enough to come here and complain, to think solutions themselves, because they like the game and they want it to be better. It’s time for a change, and I’m not saying what this dude is suggesting is THE solution, but there is definitely a lot to think about. Saying the problem ain’t real when it clearly is, is just delusional.

If you feel bad about something, when that something isn’t to blame… The issue is you, not the something. Hope that helps.

If you want to address massive flaws this game has. How about no significant balance change to the main game since before christmas, buffing a hero as they launch that anyone who tried them could have told you didn’t need buffing.

Allowing sombra, doom, hog to still exist.

The list goes on. But people choose to go for “match making” which is quite clearly, after thousands and thousands of games played not an issue.

Yeah, I disagree.

If there is just one, you might have been right, but there are a lot of threads talking about the same thing. It doesn’t matter the terminology you use, by “match making”, they (me included) mean people you are being placed with in the match.

And after thousands and thousands of games, most of the volunteer feedback on this forum is proving that it is the issue. Sombra ain’t the issue either, which is proven by hero bans statistics. Does a 90% ban rate help those people who voted for her to climb? Not likely right?

You can disagree, but what you’re doing is not constructive, you know what we’re talking about, and you keep bringing back the irrelevant anyway.