What is the point of calling a mode “competitive” if you put 3 and 4 stacks, and even 3 + 2 against 5 solo players?
This is one of the biggest reasons why so many games feel so one-sided and far more tilting experiences for me so far than cheaters and smurfs. In Asian servers, it is a miracle to find someone with whom you speak a common language, so facing even a two-stack, who likely have the advantage of voice communication, greatly reduces your chances of winning.
Make stacks only be able to queue with other stacks. (Yes, that means removing the option to 4-stack in competitive, like every normal game already does.) I don’t care if some parties would have to wait all night to find a game - either don’t queue with your dumbass friends or go play QP.
I’ve been waiting for a counter example since you and SmallPackage made that point, and here it is:
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2 consecutive games against the same 4-stack without even having a duo on my team. Queue time was under a minute which means that the matchmaker didn’t even go through the effort of finding them proper opponents. It appears that being in a stack isn’t taken into consideration at all, which is just mind-boggling.
It also bothers me that I’ve encountered at least a few dozen 3, 4, or 5 stacks from the enemy team this month and only a couple on mine. (Continuation from my previous thread where I provided like 5 codes of being matched against the same 3 guys in a single session.)
I still don’t get what’s the point in allowing stacks in competitive. That’s like making a chess tournament where one of the players brings his coach and entire family to the table to plan his next move together and the organizers call it fair simply because each one of them happens to be the same elo as you individually. I don’t think I’ve seen anything like this in any other MOBA or shooter game, tbh.
Here’s also that game where I got matched against a literal 5-stack, just to confirm it’s possible 7FJ5FS
This is all fine (but they were most likely 2 duos, not a 4 and the reque was coincidental. Also, as you were solo did you actually check that your team didn’t have duos…)
My big point though… I’m not sure what advantage you think they have over solo players.
Only one is Comms. But there’s no guarantee they are even talking to each other in voice. And there’s certainly nothing stopping you from talking to your team as well.
Ranked should be a challenge, it should give you things to learn from and over come.
They had the same (extremely uncommon) avatars and were peeling for one another. And yes, I tried to invite every single player in those two games, none of my teammates was in a group. Could be a coincidence but the probability is astronomically low.
A 4 or 5 stack that regularly practices, uses voice chat, and knows one another will have advantage over 5 random players who have never met prior to the game.
Bro just TBH, You can still carry if ur Good, U only need a healer that’s decent …. Shred the enemy , Get 3 kills. Per fight early in the fight before anyone dies on ur team. You need burst damage tank or dps
Yes, but if they are diamond or below, me and my team are also diamond or below. Considering that we should be all the same skill level, being in a stack provides a clear advantage.
Playing regularly with your friends is highly probable, and that is all that matters even if it is not always the case. They should have their own separate queue.
Yes, I, a solo player need a decent healer and a burst damage tank or dps, and be able to get 3 kllls each team fight, got it!
I’m not saying it’s impossible to win. I’m saying that such matchups are not balanced. In unranked to GM challenges, you can even see some of the top players in the world having incredibly hard games at plat and diamond due to the enemy being in a stack. It’s an obvious advantage.
That’s an easy fix too. Simply have people fill slots waiting on for half the xp if a round down. Would have major benefits too. Would stop the problem of leavers because would fill the space and times would be cut.
OW is essentially a team game . Solo que you just put yourself at risk so no. Find a team on a team game . Idiotic post especially if i have to say that
It may surprise you, but just because a pro scene exists doesn’t mean that everyone’s goal is to find a team and pursue false promises of e-glory. People want to log in for an hour or two per day, press play, and have a few fun games against players of similar skill level with a minor sense of personal achievement and improvement in-between.
Overwatch is a team-based game, not a game made specifically for premades as your asinine comment suggests (if it were, there wouldn’t be any need for matchmaking to begin with). Why would I make my experience less fun in order to have fair matchmaking when every other team-based game already has a system that prevents solo players from queueing against 4 and 5 stacks in their ranked game modes?
Not a pro, but sure if you say so bud. Its just obvious plus i dont even play OW anymore because its so broken however once awhile i will come on the forum. You really should find a team though.
What is your battletag? If on pc i will add you so maybe i will jump on. My tank left off silver and rest down in bronze. (Yawns)
I very much agree and there’s no reason why they haven’t given us a solo competitive queue, other than laziness and incompetence.
They have after many years said that next season if you solo you will be mostly against solo queue players, but it’s probably another false promise from a bunch of lazy farts who don’t invest any time in their own game. They come to work, take the pay cheque and leave.
That feeling when you win an intense 20 min payload game where both you and the enemy gave 120%.
Only to be matched against a 5-stack next game playing 3-0-2 while your 4 solo teammates are arguing in chat who should be the healer, and you lose in 5 minutes, taking away any hard-earned SR gains from your previous game. Another 30 minutes of my life wasted thanks to Blizzard incredible and perfectly balanced matchmaking.
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Seriously, I’ve been tracking my progress and I encourage people to do the same. Over 80% of my losses are against 3 to 5 stacks and over 80% of my wins are against solo players, with the majority of other 20 being vs 2-stacks.
