So you admit doom has horrid survivability

But under those direct notes where you say he has poor survivability, you do not implement any of these:

  • Buff his shield gain
  • Buff his HP
  • Give him armor

Changes that ACTUALLY improve his survivability.

But instead you do a buff to block (which literally should’ve been a thing in the first place so this is basically a bug fix if anything) and it also really only applies to 2 main heroes who use stickies… echo and cass.

And then you give him a lower slam cooldown. Again, good change except for the fact it does nothing for his survivability. It’s been proven time and time again, that his shield gain ISN’T ENOUGH for him to survive. Turning slam into an even bigger just “shield charger” and nothing else does not change that fact.

I also find it funny, doom gets buffs but what do we also get:

  • Orisa buffs (Hard doom counter)

  • Cass buffs (Hard doom counter)

  • Introduced a hero with an automated healing turret which if placed on a high wall doom just cannot physically deal with and will make diving and singling out anyone, virtually impossible since his damage is so bad.

I mean it’s like constant 1 step forward, triple the steps back with this hero.

And this isn’t to say the changes are bad. They help doom absolutely, it’s just funny how the dev comments about the changes, have almost zero correlation to the actual changes he received. And buffing 2 of his hard counters in the same patch on top of that.

And Tracer… but who cares about facts or anything like that? Yeah, faster Seismic Slam CD doesn’t give him faster shields or mobility? Just ignoring the stuff you get with the buff doesn’t help you.

I love how despite being so bad you still see Doom so often,his players are relentless fr

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Hmmmm even though I hate doom myself and I clearly see a big influx of doom players right now, I still think he’s not that big of a deal compared to Hammond. That rat literally never die with that shield.

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A tracer isn’t sticking a doom…

I also clearly said the 2 MAIN heroes who use stickies. An echo is always using stickies on a blocking doom it’s literally free damage (before the buff) and cass always nades a blocking doom (free damage and hindered)

A tracer very rarely is using it on doom because why would you, when you can land it on a squishy and guarantee a freer kill + the potential of more than one kill.

His shields aren’t good. I see we like to talk like we’re smart while blatantly ignoring the text I wrote that LITERALLY spoke on the slam buffs and why it means jack.

Turning slam into even more of a shield gain bot ability, ISN’T A GOOD THING.

His shields have been proven time and time again, even when he was a DPS, that they aren’t good enough to KEEP HIM ALIVE.

Yeah no, not really…

Yes they should have hard counters.

No, not really what???

No… they shouldn’t! What a shocker.

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No his survivability isnt horrid

Zayra counters Orisa… so…

I only play him in FFA where you can definitely feel how squishy he is. Seriously, 300 hp is not enough to call him a tank even with his overhealth or block. He’s a dps without the damage, and a tank without the mitigation or health. I want to play him in RQ, but I don’t need my team in the metal ranks false reporting me for throwing.

It is though???

His survivability is terrible lmfao

… and this is supposed to mean something???

Try not standing in the open and letting people shoot, create chaos to give your team opportunity to move and attack.

Is he at least a little bit better with the slam cooldown buff?

I remember watching quaked play him in Comp FFA and he had to swap to Tracer a bunch of times.

I know how to play the hero…

The hero sucks, is the issue.

No it isnt… Against his counters yes… But others no

So can we increase Orisa’s dmg or survival because she has counters???

Obviously you dont… Doom isnt a frontline tank like Orisa/Rein/Sig/Ram… You make the space and let the DPS get into it… and Doom is good at making space… Like Winston.

Maybe doom is too hard a hero for you to use… Just saying

No idea, I don’t play overwatch much anymore. It just doesn’t keep me invested like it used to. They also keep giving the wrong buffs. The few times I did play him in RQ, I felt like I was doing it right if maybe more passive than I should’ve been but we still put up a good fight.

His survivability is fine though, just use your abilities better

Good Doomfist’s are known for being quite unkillable

Well it’s too bad, that he happens to have a lot of counters, and will 99% of the time… be playing against said counters.

So yes…

His survivability is horrid.

Orisa can play into her counters and can still butcher them, cause she already HAS insane survivability. She has literal 50% dmg reduction ability, that also provides CC immunity, AND has an ability to eat projectiles.

Yea man you’re SO right. I just so happen to be GM across multiple accounts for the past 3 years maining doom, by accident. I definitely suck at this hero and DEFINITELY don’t know how to play him.

Just not even true. Even good doom’s die a lot lmfao.

Yup, You sure are… Unlock the profile to prove it please.

And yes you kind of do… You dont seem like you are using Doomfist the right way and the way you are replying is proving it. Doom can be a good tank in the right hands… Obviously just not yours

Doom is supposed to be high risk, high reward. If you want a safe tank, play Orisa. He has lower survivability because he can add value in ways no other tank can.

Doom is very strong right now. Any buffs and he’ll be OP

Unluck what? I’ve never had a private profile, you simply cannot view it on here.

Ever since the move to OW2, they broke stuff on the forums to where it doesn’t even show profiles anymore and just goes to a 404 page.

Where is this high reward?

His damage is bad, his block is bad, his empowered punch is worse than on release, his slam is a glorified shield charger, and he has the worst ult in the game.

PLEASE point to this “magical” value doom produces that no other tank does, cause I promise you, there is not a SINGLE thing doom does, that another tank can’t just do better.