Now that her mythic has been sold and Sombra was gutted, it’s time for Widow to get changed.
OP in half the maps, no reasonable counterplay for 90% of heroes. No hero should be standing afk the entire fight, no fun to vs or play with.
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They can’t immediately nerf her or give sombra her perma invisi back, else their money minded tactic will be blatantly obvious.
So, wait for the next patch…
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Just quit playing the game. They’ll fix their act
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Santa said no
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In yer dreams buggaboo
Crazy to me how people both exaggerate Widowmaker’s impact on the match, and undersell her in one sentence.
Which is it? Is she OP or is she brain dead? Because it requires skill to hit a sniper shot, tactical awareness to position well, understand what is happening in the match, and escape dives. Especially with 6v6 coming back. You don’t have to be hopped up on sugar playing Genji bouncing around the map to be “good” at a hero. Sniping playstyles are just as skillful as any other hero in the roster.
I’d recommend you stop listening to content creators in top 500 whining about Widow and focus on your own skill instead of blaming everything on a certain hero. If Widow ever lost her 1 shot, she would become F tier overnight. Just look at what happened with Hanzo which they have reverted somewhat since his breakpoints wouldn’t allow one shots anymore. He was one of the most terrible heroes in the roster.
It wouldn’t be long either before the next hero got dumpstered by the mob complaining about them. I predict Tracer would be next on the chopping block.
That being said, I’m always open to the maps being balanced more to allow for more counter play in long sightline maps against snipers and long range heroes alike. Destroying a hero is not the answer.
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Yeah widow is soooo hard to play that’s why she’s in every second match
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hard enough to be a free kill anywhere else.
would pay real cash to face more widows.
she’s so strong t500 widows are scared to 1v1 a pleb like me.
no tracer would ever refuse this.
I challenge you to find a player on these forums who has never been in a lobby where an enemy widow dominated the entire game… to the point that they were scared to leave spawn.
I had it happen only once in OW2 but this Widow was probably an cheater (Low level, Standard Skin, Mercypocket, completly dominating the game) and me and my Friends even quit that match. But other then that, no, I had never had a game where a widow dominated to such a extend.
in my short OW career of 10 months, I have seen such games at least once every season (and I have played in B to G; understandably). NGL, could be smurfs.
thats probably one cause, or cheaters. Since the game is F2P there is basically nothing stooping them and afaik, Blizzard does not IP ban.
But constantly facing smurf or cheater is not a Hero problem but a game problem.
but that’s the issue. We do not have any official confirmation whether those high level Widow plays in lower ranks are by smurfs/cheaters. And, sorry but OW does not deserve benefit of the doubt that it isn’t a hero problem but a cheater/smurf prob.
its not benefit of the doubt. if widow got removed, those “players” would just go to the next hero and dominate with them.
A ledigt bronze or silver widow would not be able to dominate a match.
not quite the same thing because the issue is one-shot. That’s what has been bothering players since OW1 (or at least I have read).
Yeah, she can be annoying, but there are plenty of heroes that can take her out if the rest of the team applies a little pressure. More of a teamwork issue than an individual skill issue.
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She doesn’t fit into the Overwatch character pool.
Unlike Spamzo, she’s a hitscan with unlimited headshot range. As many have said in their videos, she creates space without even being in it. Even if she misses a lot, she’s creates fear and makes you kiss the walls, praying that you won’t be hit by a stray shot.
And if someone tries to dive her, you lose a valuable teammate who is likely to die after killing Widowmaker, because he had to spend resources to get to her. And no one canceled Widowmaker’s hard pocket.
I don’t see any positioning requirements for this character, all you need is at least medium aim skills and click on heads, instilling fear in opponents so that they change their playstyle.
DO YOU realize that the ENTIRE enemy team is FORCED to play a CERTAIN way, just because of ONE character? Moreover, one-shots devalue the work of supports, you can’t heal oneshots, and spending very valuable resources in the form of Baptiste’s lamp or Kiriko’s suzu is very stupid and ineffective.
I will tell you this, to create space with hanzo and make real impact, you really have to be skilled. Whereas widow just requires dry aim and nothing else.
Copying a sniper from tf2 is one mistake that affected the gameplay of the game. As far as I know, it is also one of the reasons why players leave the game, especially last season my friends and i didn’t want to play.
And the only reason she hasn’t gotten a rework or nerf yet is because she’s one of the most sexualized female characters in the game and there’s money to be made off of her by releasing skins.
I wouldn’t be surprised if you play Widowmaker. Because only Widowmaker players defend her current position.
Nobody wants to see her destroyed like Sombra (lol). But she definitely needs a rework. Make oneshot cooldowns or add a laser pointer, whatever. Even if oneshot is removed, why do you think it’s okay to kill the individuality of characters like Sombra and Hanzo, but not Widowmaker?
Yeah, I stumble upon these players every now and then, they might play Widow, Ashe, Cass, Soj… Etc. They won’t stop if the company doesn’t act more seriously
For Widow I think one of her problems is that she doesn’t have a good deal of DPS counters and if you wanna counter her with a tank, there is a chance you leave your team exposed behind you considering the current 5v5 solo tank gameplay
I don’t. Not sure where you came up with this.
I vehemently disagreed with Hanzo’s breakpoint/one-shot nerfs. Maybe his projectile sizes were too large in the past which scored him many random 1-taps, but he feels a lot better now that he can at least 1-shot more of the cast again.
Sombra should still be allowed to have perma-invisibility if that’s what people prefer. But I actually prefer this version of her because 1. you get to see her skins better, 2. the translocator cooldown is lower and makes it really nice to escape and generally move around the map more often, and 3. fewer Sombra teammates camp in the enemy backline all game without the perma-invisibility which forces them to actually play with the team more often to remain safe. People overblow her rework completely saying she’s a dead character, but community perception is key here. If more people played her again instead of not playing her simply because the community calls her dead, people would still hate her.