She legit might be stronger than mauga at release right now. Have been spawn camping multiple teams in comp with her now.
average charge stays above 80% without having to use your brain at all
edit: like it’s so bad now that rein doesn’t even counter her anymore. Can just run past him and destroy the entire backline with little to no concern
You know that it depends on your team to charge her up, right? I would say if she can farm charge all game, then you and your team are just to trigger-happy.
He never countered Zarya…
I like bubble lasting longer, but I don’t like bubble having more Hp
I also don’t like it lasting THAT much longer on herself
As a Zarya player I suggest…
2.25 seconds self bubble (maybe even leave it at 2 but buff cooldown to 9 seconds… MAYBE)
200 bubble Hp (simply never should be buffed)
If Zarya feels weak they can buff her alt fire. It’s particularly weak compared to the rest of her kit and could open up her versatility a bit. Her beam/bubbles/emery rate/bubble up time are already about as high as they can all healthily be pre buff- anything more can imbalance her seriously fast.
Her alt fire has a lot of room for change to round her out. Even some simple ideas like “after 15 meters of travel the burst explodes” to give her potential to damage those annoying aerial targets, or buff its damage (that it never got after the hp changes, which causes it to nearly always feel too weak to waste a whole 25 of your magazine…)
Her magazine is also notorious for always feeling the slightest bit skimpy- an intended design choice I’m sure, but a tiny buff to 110 magazine size or something could be a much healthier buff than… 225 Hp bubbles, which seriously compound her tankiness HARD very fast.
that isn’t a valid point as even in OWL the teams couldn’t stop the enemy Zarya from getting charged up
Do I care about OWL? No. Do you play in OWL? Certainly not. Stop with the excuses and stop fire ring at Zarya. Yes, she can farm charge on her own, but most of the time its your teams fault.
I wouldn’t go that far. He definitely still wins the match up.
Lemme tell you how a proper Zarya plays
She sits back a bit and lets a dps take a risky frontline angle- often this is best either a hitscan who can hit whoever they want at range (ignoring the enemy tank) or someone like mei/reaper/sym/maybe even brig, who goes for a brawl to kill a squishy- or even a diver like tracer or sombra…
She nearly guarantees the kill by giving a bubble to them, now lasting a fat 2.5 seconds of 225 barrier and CC immunity… and any damage dealt doesn’t even count towards their dps ult charge cause it’s on a barrier Lol
So they either burst your dps down as a team and kill them to stop the attack, netting you a fast energy charge at the very least (and your dps MIGHT and very well could still live by backing out in time)
Or they let the kill happen, and at that point who cares if you denied Zarya charge? She helped facilitate a kill easily.
That’s not really how this works. More than half the heroes in the game fire projectiles that can’t be unshot when Zarya decides to bubble. Even if your whole team is hitscan players with inhuman reaction time, you’d still be giving Zarya access to 2.5 second invulnerability bubbles if you never break them.
Yes, that is how Zarya works when a Tank smurfs in low ranks.
Not sure what you’re getting at but his principal point is that people who are paid to play this game on a professional level have higher discipline and game sense than an unpaid random player on the internet, so to have higher expectations for the random ladder player than what we actually see in real life from the best players we know of is… well lets say there is a large disconnect there and I don’t know how else it can be served to you.
DVa is busted too unless the team goes beams. What a stupid patch this is.
How dare you not allowing the “skill issue” argument to beat everything
Right? Even the, I guess you could say, soft-counter of winston was hitting a point where he felt like cannon fodder, and that was before this change
I just had a match in suravasa where the enemy Zarya had free reign over the match, completely disconnected form her team and just running after the supports and dps, killing everyone on her way with no real chance at a counterplay. If 1-2 players died it was sure the rest wouldn’t be able to leave. Sure “skill issue”, if we were a full group coordinating every move we would have been able to beat her, but it was absolutely oppressive. I’m feeling like tanks are plain bullies rn. Will have to play more to see but I don’t think the balance team predicted this outcome.
Which is why feedback from professional players is pointless, especially in team games - you will never have that in your average match.
the 200 dps death beam and 225 bubble shield is absolutely mental for a tank. the gimmick was to melt the bubbles and then melt the zarya but i dont think its really possible anymore after all the changes. especially if you have torb or sym on your team, you will just feed bubble the entire round and eat 200 dps from mid range
zarya has a secret passive where she causes your other dps to play junkrat and feed her all game
OWL are what you can do best with human being playing the game. If they cannot: nor can you or us everyday players do it.
youre supposed to burst her bubbles, problem is their hp got buffed. feeding her has nothing to do with how to beat her because she will always be fed.
if you know how to kill her just sspit it out.
he did more than any other tank