So they are silencing 6v6 posts in reddit

I saw a post about 6v6 it had a lot of engagement and it got removed and then I posted something 6v6 related and it got removed, they are so scared of 6v6 it’s crazy even before the Flats interview with Aaron Keller, Aaron asked Flats to not mention 6v6 because they had no answer for it, it’s disappointing to see how the devs know about it but they are scared of talking about it and I bet this post might be deleted too.

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I’m 90% sure Blizzard does not run the subreddit.

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The devs don’t, but, they have a social team working on it.

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Nah the Reddit mods are not affiliated with Blizzard. They are pretty strict with their rules though.

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What rule did they break with the thread ?
And don’t tell me repetitive content with their 100000 of play of the games posts…

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Some Reddit mods defo have an ego that’s undeserved. Some go on massive power trips thinking they’re god amongst a bunch of social media forums. Guarantee some still live in their moms basement-though Discord mods are worse good lord lol

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How am I to know? I haven’t seen the thread that supposedly got deleted, nor am I one of the mods. If I had to guess, they probably considered it a “non-constructive rant or vent”, a “general complaint thread” or a call to action, all of which are against their rules.

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Pretty sure there is rule agasint repeating the same topic. They dont always enforce it but it looks like someone at blizz told the mods to do it now.

Could be a good sign that its not going to happen no matter what anyone says

There’s a post up on the sub right now about it

Outside of what is happening on reddit (cause I don’t think Blizzard is involved in taking down those posts… hell, here you are addressing it and it’s still up on Blizzard’s actual forum).

but to address why Aaron and the devs don’t have an answer about 6v6, I’d guess is that it’s just a lot more work to change everything back to 6v6 than they would be able to push out (think about not only how long it took them to make OW2 and rework 6v6 to 5v5, but that even after launch, it still took them 9 months after launch just to get all the features that OW1 had, re-implemented into OW2).
It’s not just simply adding an extra tank back in for each team (which probably alone would involve a lot more coding then one might think).
But you are talking about reworking every character again.
Tanks were completely changed when it went to 5v5 to make up for the fact that there was one less tank on each team. All the Tanks would have to be reworked back to a double tank scenario.
All of the other characters were also reworked when they moved to 5v5. Not as much as tanks in most regards, but still significantly. So they too would most likely have to undergo some reworks and a lot of adjustments.
And even if they did all of that, not only would it take a lot of time to do, but also a lot more time of trial and error and making adjustments (probably for multiple seasons just to get decent results), it also just means more balancing in general from then on out. Even reworking one character can end up requiring tweaking a lot of other characters. Add in one more tank to each team and that’s just another thing to have to keep balancing. It’s just indefinitely adding on more work load than they have to do now for every patch.

Seeing how things are going now within the company, it seems like they are not given the resources to accomplishes something like going back to 6v6, so it’s probably just completely off the table and even if they personally believed it would be better, if they can’t do anything about it, why even discuss it while also admitting that what they can do is simply inferior. Might as well avoid the topic and keep pushing out what you can.

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They removed this for me:

https://imgur.com/a/i34Ihk9

I might think the twisted part was “pve cancelled” but it’s hard to think so since the hot topics of the day are Jason Schreier’s articles claiming PVE cancellation, so…

Are they saying that Archvies is a taboo subject? :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

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You post is 100 percent correct. Ow2 is a WHOLE NEW GAME ENGINE.
Just to get everything from OW1 into OW2 it’s taken as long as it is, because they had to RECODE everything and integrate it into the new engine.

I’d love to see half of these people who complain, try to code this game. It’s so amazing when people who have no idea how to code, talk about how a DEVELOPER should make their game.

Also, Reddit has rules, repetitive posts that have basically the SAME COMPLAINT, are usually pulled down to reduce spam/stop confusing most people who come here. They prefer to have one post/thread that includes everything. In alot of cases, like in most forums, they will merge posts so that everything about said topic are in one place.

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they can just do a git checkout of OW when it was 6v6
just throw out all the new stuff

no one will miss mauga or the terrible maps they added

Dude, they know, they just cant go back

Nope. IT’S A WHOLE NEW COMPLETE ENGINE. it’s literally built differently.

Omg this is exactly like 1984…… Blizzard is spending all the money they loooove giving devs to secretly moderate the Overwatch forums and the Overwatch subreddit so there’s not some sort of prison riot consisting of Overwatch 2 players upset about the loss of 6v6

OMG, the amount of cope in this post is cringey.

It’s a joke my guy lol. Did you read the entire post?

It was less than a year.

The pvp was worked on for less than a year. We know this. They have outright said it.

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I mean, they said a lot of things that are conflicting.

At one point they said that they were removing most of the devs from OW1 to go work on OW2 and that caused the 4 year content drought. Whether they were actually working on OW2 or not, I don’t think anyone outside of Blizzard knows exactly how much effort was put into OW2 during that time, but if they put any effort, it was 4 years.

But it was definitely more than a year. Not sure what your source is that they said it took less than a year, but we know it was more than a year, because they said they were working on it, but the launch date was pushed back multiple times with different reasons and those were over a year out all added up.
Plus just going off of the announcement made in Blizzcon 2019 that they were working on OW2 and showed clips of game play, featuring the new characters, new maps, cinematics, people were play testing it, etc.
OW2 didn’t launch until Oct 2022. That’s already more than a year from the announcement at Blizzcon and the launch date.

But my point really was more about pointing out that even after launch of OW2, (which wasn’t fully ready to be launched) the game was missing a lot of features from OW1 on top of having a lot of bugs) and that even adding smaller things back in the game like player level (not to be confused with player rank), “On Fire” system, a decent game scoreboard, endorsing team mates and enemies, showing the average lobby rank at the start of the match (and only just recently in tab), etc. these things took many months/over a year to add back in and they were slowly added one by one.
It’s not to say that they have to worry about dealing with these things now if the decision was to change back to 6v6, just pointing out that if those smaller things take that long, then reworking every hero, especially every tank, would take a long time to do.

And when they were making OW2 they weren’t currently needing to update a current live game (since they did practically abandon OW1 with very minimal upkeep, they could just work on OW2), which now they would have to simultaneously upkeep OW2 while reworking all the characters to work for 6v6. That means keep making new maps, new characters, new patch changes, new cosmetics, etc. all while they rework all the characters.