So... Is Dva overpowered?

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  • Unlimited Ammo
  • Very respectable damage at close range, which is easy to reach.
  • Very, Very useful POTG ult.
  • Isn’t damaged by her own ult.
  • Essentially has two lives.
  • Substantial Health Pool.
  • Most mobile tank by far.
  • Able to pull off basically all of her moves at once - rocket boost + fusion cannon + micro missile + boop
  • Insane right-click that can cancel almost anything.
  • Hard Counters anything but a Reaper / A few of the other tanks.
  • Baby Diva can be an absolute pain to finish off with the hitbox of mercy.
  • Instant Re-mech if she gets even one kill with her ult.
  • Decent amount of armor to play with.
  • Tied for the highest base health out of the tank line-up. Has the highest overall if you count Mini-Dva.
  • Mini-Dva’s little blaster does relatively decent damage.

I’m not exactly noticing any weaknesses, other than a large hitbox. But all tanks have that… And then there’s Baby Dva, who has a tiny hitbox comparable to Mercy.

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It’s hard to land her ult just right, but I get it.

she use to take damage from her own ult, but it killed her way too often.

She’s getting a nerf soon, with her missiles though. I can see why she’s annoying, but she isn’t too hard to deal with.

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You forgot absolutely shutting down any 1 hero. Its a pain when I am a roadhog. My team would often ask me to focus her down instead of me hooking a support because she is such a threat but that’s the point people will focus dva that’s her weakness and roadhog can pretty much get her. The game presently kind of favours her like how doomfist isn’t favoured even though in paper they feel like equals. Worry not though as a brig I have killed dva at very close range and she is a much bigger threat than dva and has even better strengths expect for the ult which still seems brig can do better.

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her primary fire slows her

only because of the missiles which gave her high burst capabilities, already being nerfed on the ptr

ult can easily be dodged if you know it’s coming
damaged by own ult? why it was the case during launch and aside from the lolz it wasn’t exactly nice

that’s her gimmick/identity

probably have the biggest critbox in the game which is directly looking at you if she attacks you

predictable, some would say the fact that winston’s arcing jetjump is better

again her burst damage is what made her seem like a dps, missiles is already nerfed on the ptr

is fine it lasts like 2 seconds at max. genji has an ability which throws even ults back at the caster so…

only if you’re on you’re own and she catches you off guard. if she dives into a group it’s easy to melt her mech

that’s the point. also many would say it’s a pain cause it staggers her team if you let her live for more than 10seconds without her getting her mech back, or let her survive for a while before killing her

she get’s to reimburse her mech if she self-destructs it,how’s that a problem?

really d.va’s only “problem” is her high burst damage from her missiles which again is being nerfed on the PTR

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Written like that you can make even the most underpowered heroes to sound OP.

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_Unlimited Ammo_

slowing her down when firing so you have to get close range of someone who will always be faster than you once you start shouting.

_Very respectable damage at close range, which is easy to reach._

but close to no damage as soon as you leave close range so you have to be in the middle of every one to do actual damage.
Very, Very useful POTG ult.
which will most often result in near to nothing if the ennemy got a shield or mei. But I conceed is power in point cleaning in late game.
Isn’t damaged by her own ult.
like every one but phara unless I’m wrong.

_Essentially has two lives._

or a free 10 sec delay for the ennemy team, once again supposing some organisation in the ennemy team.

_Substantial Health Pool._

and biggest/easiest to touche critbox in the game

_Most mobile tank by far._

we agree on one point. but she would be useless without that.
Able to pull off basically all of her moves at once - rocket boost + fusion cannon + micro missile + boop
boop and boost are the same thing, going all out mean playing a sitting duke for 5sec if the ennemy goes back (and your missils will be lost if the ennemy side steps).
Insane right-click that can cancel almost anything.
and on a 2sec cd meter meaning that it can only be use on ult prevention or to allow an attack/fall back initiation, useless in attrition fight.
Hard Counters anything but a Reaper / A few of the other tanks.
and anyone one mobile enought to keep the distance or strong enought to sustain first burst like 76, mei, tracer genji. most of the dps being at most soft counter.

_Baby Diva can be an absolute pain to finish off with the hitbox of mercy._

or a death sentence if the ennemy has anything with AOE damage or autolock meaning they can let you live and kill you last and desynch.
Instant Re-mech if she gets even one kill with her ult.
have… have you ever play D.Va?..
Decent amount of armor to play with.
si big large critbox for the answer. reducing damage by 5 while doubling it isn’t that much of a trade.
Tied for the highest base health out of the tank line-up. Has the highest overall if you count Mini-Dva.
lowest hp in the tank category (but zarya) if you take in account self heal and shield.

_Mini-Dva’s little blaster does relatively decent damage._

fully agree and that but 150hp without any ability/mobility

D.va might be slightly over powered, I’m not efficient enougth to state on that, but don’t be dumber than you are to prove your point.

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Basically everyone got unlimited ammo but some don’t need to reload.

Sure mate. Getting into close range is extremely dangerous when you got hitbox in the size of the moon and critbox in the size of a truck in the middle, and not easy at all.

That doesn’t get you any kills if the enemy team is actually smart? Her ult is less kill focus and more zoning focus.

She actually was until Blizz patched it so her ult won’t hurt her.

Ok.

Which drains so fast because of said hitbox size.

But her movement speed is cut while shooting. It balances it at least.

Boop is part of boosters, so it’s not an ability of its own. Fusion cannon is primary fire, not an ability either.

Are we playing the same game? DM is meant to extend your lifetime, but isn’t reliable against her counters because they can just ignore it.

Try to dive a decent Widow. You’ll instantly lose mech and you’re supposed to counter her. Same for diving Bastion.

No, she got Tracer hitbox+hp pool but 0 abilities.

Nope. You get it instantly if you don’t kill anything with the ult either.

Again, her HP drains so fast because of her planet size hitbox.

Ok.

98 DPS if you hit only headshots within a sec. Isn’t reliable as much tho.

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1)Every hero in this game have unlimited ammo.

  1. Because she is effective at melee range, she isn’t widowmaker.

  2. Ultimate used to clean/zones, extremely easy to dodge/block after leaving Silver rank tier, before the buff her ultimate was one of the worst in the game because no escape from Baby D.va

4)Two lives with the same animation after getting ejected, most predictable movement in the entire game, also is a double edge sword since you can stagger baby D.va and avoid her to suicide.

5)Like any other tank, I can say Reinhart have 2500 HP because his shield.

  1. Like Winston, since this game have SNIPERS and MOBILE FLANKERS who can do whatever they want they need a counter and we have two, D.va and Winston, without them how we could deal with Widow/Hanzo/Doomfist/Genji/Tracer/Sombra? make your bet.

  2. Like 80% of the cast can do the same, Roadhog for example Shoot-Hook-Shoot-Melee-Breather. Tracer 3 blinks in a row, Genji Shurikens-reflect-dash combo.

8)Last two seconds, and Zarya bubbles/Shields are more consistent than DM because they last for much more time and block everything including beam weapons

  1. Hard counters anything but Reaper/Sombra/Tracer/Junkrat/Roadhog/Orisa/Zarya/Zenyatta (Discord D.va all the game ) /Mei anything that bypasses DM.

  2. Read point 4. Her demech animation is the same , you can kill her before she touches the ground.

  3. From a 600 hp unit she remains as 150 with no mobility, no defense/evade skill, is a trade off, she can get hacked/1 hit by literally anything.

  4. Like Reinhart/Winston/Orisa who have better shields and armor.

  5. Tied for the highest hitbox in the game and 2 seconds of self defense, she isn’t a DPS class she is a tank, and tank classes takes effort to put them down.

  6. That’s bad? or you want to nerf D.va pistol? staying as mini D.va in a competitive game isn’t fun and people expects to get killed instead of get stagger by the enemy team.

Have a good day.

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As a D.va main yes she is, but she deals with another op heroes so i’m fine with that.

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Yes. Thankfully she’s getting a nerf tomorrow. Hopefully Blizzard nerf her more though

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Asking for uneeded nerfs is not a good idea budd. Remember Mercy?

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i stopped reading after you said her ult was a “Vert, Very, useful POTG ult”

Not sure how the rest of you made it further than that. Yall better than me :man_shrugging:t6:

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she got her rocket impact dmg nerf on ptr already

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Yes. Glad we’re on the same page.

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Even if it doesn’t kill anyone, it zones them out, plus a free resuit.
If I had an ult that gave me instant 600 health, i’d call that useful too.

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Yes all tanks have it but here’s the thing. Normally when you go for a head shot you have a higher chance to miss the target. With D.va this doesnt exist all you have to do is shoot center mass to get double damage. No other tank has such a safe “Headshot” option.

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It’s a moot point at the moment. She gets her nerf live tomorrow. So, let’s see how that works out.

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She doesn’t exactly do a ton of DPS with her primary fire, and she’s slowed while doing it. So.

That’s the, uh, point.

It’s at the bottom of ults that can get kills, along with Primal Rage. It’s more used for zoning or just getting a free mech.

Back in the day, self-destruct took 4 seconds to go off and she was damaged by it.
If they had to get rid of the self-damage because she was dying too much with a 4-second det, why would they bring it back for the current 3-second det? She’d die even more.

One life is stagger-able and is not fulfilling the tank role she’s supposed to fill. It’s her whole gimmick and takes up her passive slot.

With little self-sustain, half the armor she used to have, and a big ol’ center mass critbox

This is debatable, depending on your thoughts on Winston’s leap, which goes on cooldown as soon as you hit shift.

:woman_shrugging: so can Lucio

For 2 seconds

She doesn’t hard counter Brigitte, Lucio, Mercy, Reaper, Rein, Winston, Soldier: 76, Roadhog to an extent, Zarya, Tracer, Doomfist, etc etc etc

Not instant, there’s a cast time

That’s the point

This doesn’t contribute to OPness. It’s 200 armor

Ok, she also has a huge hitbox and no reliable barrier. There’s always gonna be a tank with the highest base health.

This doesn’t contribute to her being OP

Just wait for the nerf to be live for a while. Let it play with Reaper and Mei’s buffs and Brigitte going live to comp first.

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As a D.Va main, I have to say that she’s a little too strong. There’s no character in the game that has positive match up vs D.Va in a 1v1, besides Doomfist, Reaper, Mei, and Zarya, heroes who are all out of the meta and can be outplayed if the D.Va is good enough.

“But this isn’t a 1v1 game! It’s a Team game!” I hear you cry and well… D.Va is the best team player in the game. She can deny several ults and bullies flankers, keeping your healers alive and her ult is one of the best playmaking ults. If you fly a D.Va bomb to one side of a Reinhardt while your McCree ults from the other, that’s a true checkmate with only 2 fast charging ults lost. The self destruct is also an amazing stall ult. It forces everyone off the point or forces them behind a Rein, which like I said, can open up plays, but most importantly, the time between you farming ult, ulting, Re-meching, then getting de-meched again, and dying is more than enough time for your team to come back to point. Sure, it doesn’t usually get kills, but that’s not it’s purpose.

I think D.Va needs a niche. She’s great on defense, better on attack, she can protect, she can kill, she can play Solo and carry or set up with her team. She just does EVERYTHING.

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Well she definitely isn’t balanced. She’s the Brigitte of tanks.