Or is this just another excuse to hate on Brigitte?
Because since the beginning us Junkrat mains have been shlt on by Pharah and Snipers and you don’t see us making hate posts every single day. We just got used to it because, well, what can we do?
We only want the grenade size nerf reverted
I think the issue is more about there should be heavily disadvantaged matchups, but not so disadvantaged that skilled outplay doesn’t matter and the only solution is to switch off.
I.e. Widow pick doesn’t mean automatically switch off Pharah.
Just means things are say 60% in Widows favor, but Pharah can outplay 40% of the time.
there’s more counterplay to junkrat vs pharah than there is in tracer vs brigitte
brigitte counters tracer by existing and has an extremely easy 1vs1
the problem with brigitte is that the composition she enables, goats, hardcounters almost every dps and tank and forces mirrors
I think the difference there is that depending on the map, junkrat can pick locations to hold off that are very difficult for pharahs to pick on him.
Between brig peeling for her other supports close by, and offering armor and health packs at a distance, theres not a ton of room for tracer to play around her.
I agree on the grenade nerf revert though.
Yes hard counters are bad for the game. I have argued this many times. If the game really is rock paper scissors everyone would just swap heroes every time they died. The winner would be the team that swapped most recently in overtime.
Not a good game.
Except, that is the point of hero-based shooters? Some had strenght over some and weaknesses against others and OW’s selling point is switching heroes on the fly.
If you don’t want to switch, you can always play a standard shooter
Havent you learned from mercys rework that whatever seagul says is all that matters?
How dare you think people are entitled to have their own opinions.
They’ve always been bad.
People just usually never stopped to actually think and analyze and conclude that fact until streamers mentioned it.
There is a lot of complexity and degree when it comes to counters and such in this game. You also have to take in a lot of consideration. For instance, during the peak of dive, people didn’t switch off Winston the moment someone played a Bastion.
Unfortunately, due to this complexity and stuff, it probably isn’t something easily discussed in a constructive way on this forum. This forum is… memey and extreme.
If you got 2 and a half hours to listen, Jayne, Seagull, Surefour and xQc had a really good discussion about it.
A lot of agreement, but also a lot of disagreement.
Briggitte the world of hard countering doesn’t stop and start with you… Ya miserable piece of s-
What’s wrong with Walter Bastion?
Mcree, Sym, Bastion VI Lenin, and the other off meta Lebowskis. This affects us all man!
Also grenade nerf is not the proper nomenclature, Blizzard balance, please.
But I digress, hard counters would be ok if it were juggled. The game for the last two years has been why pick this hero when this more buff hero has less counters or need to swap.
Counterplay is fair but to the degree a Bastion, Reaper or Sym get countered for starters mean you just have heroes that will collect dust for lack of use.
Not to be rude but i dont care what their opinions are. I respect their opinion the same as i respect you, a random forumers opinion.
We are all players.
If you dont care about other players opinions why participate in a forum?
Soft counters, you are thinking of soft counters. Having a soft counter present makes a hero change their tactics or outplay their counter to have success. A hard counter makes a hero swap.
An entire teams composition should force swaps, not a single hero.
Perhaps to simply state facts?
How is this not making a post than?
There’s plenty of counterplay. A good tracer can bait out the shield bash and avoid the Brig, it’s not impossible.
And if you’re that concerned about hard counters, what about Wrecking Ball? He has a ton and Mei/Sombra shut him down completely.
Nah some popular dude says something and everyone repeats it because they “agree” with him while they ignore a huge list of problems this game has than “mirroroutplayswitchlulnobuenofuntimes” or what ever.
What?? You can hobble away.
And you can avoid a Brigitte. She has no range and her shield gets destroyed quick.