Not really, healing can also save the target, or stunning/booping DF
exaggeration
Not really
Its not that hard to miss the kill since anything going wrong can deny the kill, committing at that point is suicide, and you cant always get out alive even if you dont commit
DF can take people out of position a lot easier, yes, that applies to more heroes besides him, and even then, a lot of heroes have the tools to duel him, an example being Mcree, who can shot him before he even gets near, roll away from Slam, stun him and kill him
You just contradicted your own statement, since you included Uppercut
Again, his shotgun isnt reliable on its own, nearly all other heroes can rely on their gun alone to deal dmg, DF doesnt, since his dmg mainly comes from his CDs, not his weapon
Both Mei and Reaper are smaller than him
That wont happen cause those changes are plain stupid, you are basically deleting the hero
I personally hate all the nerfs that Doom received, not because I think it was unjustified to nerf him, he was or is too strong, especially in low ranks, where people simply don’t have the reaction time to counter him.
I would like them to revert the punch charge time, but nerf that his rocket punch damage to 200 max. Being killed by that ability feels as bad if not worse than a widow headshot. Furthermore I would like them to nerf his passive shield gain per ability, I get that it rewards you for landing abilities and Doom is a high risk hero, sine he takes some time to get used to, but it would make hime more team reliant, like every other hero. So, yeah, that is my take
Zen’s orb does 48 damage, and you’re saying that you can 5-orb him every time he engages you. And of course he’s not stupid (right? this is coming from your personal experience and the DFs you run into are not stupid, right?) and he jumps you from short distances rather than long ones, so you have literally no time to fire anything more than the 5orb that you’ve been charging. First of all that implies that he’s not discorded due to the constraint on time. So 48x5 (the pro that you are hit all 5 bodyshots on him), great. That’s 240 damage. DF has 250hp+shields. So of course, silly me assuming that they were bodyshots - of course some of them must have been headshots for the math to work out. And of course you can do that consistently (“on average 2/0 KD Zen vs DF”) because you know his pathing of all things - it’s not like he can change it on every engagement like some kind of mobile hero or anything - no, it’s the same pathing, and you know it, therefore you know where to shoot him time and time again. And you do this consistently to get 2/0 KD. Ok dude. Cool story bro.
df doesnt get shields if he doesnt land his abilites, its possible to kick him after the 5 orb to finish him before slam lands, if ur not able to pull that off he gets 60 shields from both abilities and the only way he can truly one shot you from a target slam is if he lands either an 8 pellet headshot or a 7 pellet headshot with no misses so you have time to fire off the shot you need to kill him, its made especially easy if you dont even let him engage on full health because you are tagging him as he stages
i dont need you to believe it, im trying to offer a solution to ur problem and you’re just blocking out everything im saying like a toddler having a tantrum all because it doesnt fit ur agenda, people like you will never cause a change because you dont provide anything constructive to a discussion
i don’t have an agenda. i also don’t like listening to made up statistics and lies. the picture-perfect scenario you painted out is too good to be consistently done. It probably happened to you once, like it did to every other zen, and then never again. And 2/0 K/D Zen vs DF is clearly a made up statistic. Where could you possibly even get that statistic anyway for specifically Zen vs DF? lol. Literally bragging about something you made up
from playing games and winning at least 2/3 of the times he engages on me, i literally said its an estimate when i first brought it up, and you clearly have an agenda when you say completely false things about the hero constantly
Actually, when I do the same rollouts over and over, the Zen gets smart and snipes me a lot. Contrary to your own opinion, Zen can do well against Doomfist.
yes and i said that also if you scrolled up and read anything but the few bottom comments. But the amount of time that actually happens is an extreme minority. The vast majority of the time, DF eats Zen alive nomatter what he does. His voice line “No Chance” is pretty damn accurate when you’re playing Zen.
For many characters like Reaper, Mei, Bastion and of course my main, Doom i think we are at a point where they are beyond repair. What i mean is they need a minor rework or a role change to work well.