Watching some youtube video about Echo at work…
Well, on one hand, I am happy to report that the pinnacle of science produce some good stuff…
On the other hand… isn’t Echo borderline over overpowered?! 
I think she shouldn’t be able to use more than 1 ult per Duplication
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Well… to be fair, now that I think of it…
She can use multiple ult in the ideal case of the practice range…
In game she use here ultimate charge just to change, and then she has a short window, like 15 seconds? to charge the other hero ultimate…
I don’t think she’s far off from Brig 1.0.
Brig was near unkillable, Echo isnt that hard to kill
That’s not the only measure of power level is it?
Echo only OP thing is her Ult
Brig was just about everything
Yeah I don’t think so.
I expect every part of her kit to be nerfed. Not as much as Brig, but not that far off.
Echo needs good aim to use her abilities
Good. Still OP though.ç
How exactly?
So far her ult seems like the only op thing
I think she’s kinda hard to use, but I’ve only gotten to play her in the training room. My internet isn’t fast enough to pick her before the other dps and waiting 30 minutes to pick her means I gave up after the third time.
Her mobility CD is 6s. That’s the same as McCree’s roll.
Her damage is insanely high and bursty. She melts everything, barriers included.
No tank can really contest her, meaning she’s another hard category counter.
I reckon we’ll see nerfs across the board for her.
Then she is exposed to all the hitscan heroes or a hack
Requires good aim and barriers got nerfed across the board, besides many heroes are good at melting barriers, Junkrat being an example
D.va can eat her projectiles, if low enough Roadhog can hook her, besides tanks are bad in general against flying heroes
Yeah, that’s cute but not really enough.
That makes it worse.
And those are usually very limited heroes, like Hog, Bastion and so on.
And with that mobility and beam weapon, Dva is getting farmed too.
Speaking of being farmed…
Well there’s only another one of those and that’s Pharah and she is hardly a problem for tanks because of other aspects of her kit - and her almost requirement of Mercy makes it a 2 person job. I’m fine with that.
Echo seems like another Reaper or Mei situation.
Nerf Pharah too then and Mercy, both can fly after all
So nerf Pharah, Hanzo, Junkrat, or any hero that can destroy barriers, ok
All of them do different stuff
Again, D.va isnt the only one that can deal with her
Same has above
I dont recall Echo being able to self heal and melt the living hell of tanks or making you unable to play or separate you from your team (ult doesnt count)
That’s a silly apples to oranges comparison. Pharah is barely relevant even though she can fly and she can’t really hold her own against a Mercy.
Mercy can “fly” with GA, lol, ish.
She isn’t even strong. Echo is.
Actually, that was done.
Again, not a strong hero, unlike Echo.
If any of them were strong like Echo, certainly would happen.
Meh, some aren’t even relevant.
Again, it’s gonna be for 1/3 of any given lobby.
I said they present the same issue not that they are exactly the same in how thier kits work, geez…
ACtually, Jeff himself said something along those lines in Sinatraa’s stream.
She only stops you from switching heroes for 15 seconds and murders you with damage.
At the very least she doesn’t have CC thank goodness, des aren’t that daft yet.
Her primary is average, her right click is better than Helix Rocket and her E is just a situational Pulse Rifle. The only good thing about her is the Shift, how long she can shoot before reloading and the ultimate - and that ultimate is obviously getting nerfed.
She feels fun and ineffectual at the same time, kind of like Ashe.
her ult and beam are op other attacks are manageable, even now soldier sombra can counter her hard.
They definitely need to nerf beam and ult though.
The beam should act as a squishy finisher not a tank finisher 80-10 dps would be fine instead of 200.
I think the ult needs to be more weaker than the original.