I am someone who tries not to skill shame intentionally, but if someone is calling me or others about being bad when they sit at a rank that is considered “bad” or substantially lower than my own, should i use that as part of my argument?
I am just curious if it was right of me to use it in this context, because it wasnt my intention to rank shame him based on the circumstances. Its a universal question in within the community that i am curious about since its such a sensitive topic.
What i am trying to ask of the those who are reading is when do you think its appropriate to bring someone’s rank into a discussion.
EDIT: I removed the thread since i didnt want to single the dude out.
Yes if you’ve given up, no if you still want to accomplish anything.
Well i dont know if he had given up on his rank or not. Im not sure if you read the entire argument we had, but he was being toxic to other participants and me saying stuff like how bad they are, and i thought it was hypocritical to say stuff like that, especially since i myself was a higher rank than him (im not sure what the others were). To me it was like if i told a GM that they are crap at the game.
I’d like to think i was defending myself, but i wonder if i was in the wrong as well?
What I meant was that if you start rank shaming, that and everything else that lead up to it is now a waste of time. The people you are talking to will not take you seriously so if you are actually trying to make progress with these people do not rank shame.
If you do not care, if you are done with this person and trying to rationalize with them then sure, fire away.
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I wouldn’t directly say ‘Well you’re rank X, you suck’. I would do it indirectly. For example ‘You’re one to talk’. Then leave it there.
I’ve learned insulting others during an argument only proves how childish you are. If you let them be childish and insult you, you will come across as the more mature person.
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I know you’ve already heard this but all dat bold text makes it hard to tell if you’re trolling or not. I know why you do it but less is more.
Sorry. 
No I am not trolling.
I use bold in most of my posts because the plain text just looks too boring to me. I like to change it up a bit.
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Here ill post some of what he said without his name:
How about no? Hell no? **** no? Terrible idea. Her primary fire isn’t bad, YOU are bad. You never noticed it because–surprise, surprise!–you were playing the no-skill-required auto-aim hero with lots of utility and damage. I would honestly go so far as to say that Baguette takes more skill than pre-change Symmetra.
Git gud
I bet you shy away from hitscan like the plague, don’t you? You won’t admit it, but you want them to bring back Symm’s auto-aim because you can’t aim. I couldn’t really aim either, still can’t, really, but you know what I didn’t do? Play Symmetra. Instead I focused on improving my aim… and wouldn’t you imagine? My aim improved.
No. Bad idea. Git gud. PS Your rank means nothing for a lot of reasons, but the biggest one is usually people being boosted or getting lucky. Let me know when you’re top 500 then maybe I’ll take you seriously about your suggestion that we give Symmetra a bunch of shield HP for… what? Doing already high damage? lol thanks for the laugh bud.
EDIT: Oh yeah and before you keep droning on about skill or how I “insulted” yours (or rather your lack thereof) you should keep in mind I’m not speaking from a position of belief that I myself am a “pro” player; I do not indulge myself of delusion. The key difference here is that you are asking for buffs for a hero that really doesn’t need them. Are you dying as Symmetra? Welcome to the club. Everybody will die in a match. That’s how they go. “Waah my hero is getting killed blizz! Buff plz!”
“Why is my glass cannon getting killed? :((((((((”
EDIT2: Nobody wants to read your ten paragraph wall of text brah, keep it brief or keep it to yourself.
EDIT3: lol the XBL player is talking about skill
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Who is who in this wall of text?
No need, what I’m saying applies to all cases. If you still want to accomplish something, make any progress, or anything like that from your conversation with this person or any other hypothetical person, do not rank shame them. After that, it’s just a name calling fest.
However, if you want a name calling fest, then sure, although I would have gone with a different approach but that’s how I roll. Plus I’m in bronze anyway 
This is all him, i just spaced each quote.
It all started when i suggested a change for sym with her primary giving her extra shields as well ammo, and the first one is his response.
Oh, it’s one of those guys. Sure, rank shaming him sounds hilarious. I would have tried to avoid the cliche though, got to sling that high level sass. Unless you still wanted to try to reason with him, but I doubt it right?
You can absolutely bring up rank as a valid point of argument in some discussions. There are a lot of things person who’s only played in lower ranks won’t really understand or realize about the game, and, despite some forum-dwellers’ claims otherwise, high-ranked people generally understand the game, and its mechanics, balance, and and interactions, better than low-ranked people.
Straight-up bashing someone for their rank is never productive, though.
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If you speak from your own experience within your own rank and they speak about their experience within their rank you can come to some sort of respectful ‘agree to disagree’ conclusion, without making one another feel like scum of the planet.
Honestly buddy, If your having to make a post asking if a phrase with “shaming” in it is a good call, I can assure you it never is.
The reason i did is that he was using skill as part of his posts in the thread, so i used it as well, but i wasnt sure if it was right of me to bring up his rank tho. I know its a touchy subject.
Well when a bronze player once replied to me and said “winston counters bridgite because his tesla goes through her barrier” what in the world and how do you even want me to have an actual discussion with such a person that clearly has no understanding of what brig has to offer…
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The problem with this is that some people use the word “shaming” way too loosely, to the point that they’ll accuse you of “rank shaming” if you mention their rank even in the most innocuous or respectful way.
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The reason i made this post is to find when is it acceptable to bring up a person’s rank. Its like having non meta heroes on your team; if you are working with them, then great, but if they are picking them just to troll, then you call them out on it. This example is always a problem because where do you draw the line between maining a offmeta hero and throwing; its a gray area, just like with “rank shaming”.
I understand where you are coming from completely, but its like I said earlier, you have to explain your statement from your own standing in the ranks. My experience in platinum is vastly different from those in bronze and the top 500. Characters that are a problem or not a problem for me are different for those in different ranks.
How characters feel in terms of power across the many skill levels the biggest issue in this and many other games.
For example: “in my rank and below, Ive come to find brigette incredibly oppressive, she might not be OP but I’m struggling to work around her”
To many trolls on this forum I’d get a resounding “git gud” rather than them seeing it from my perspective, but honestly the best thing to do is ignore them. If they can’t offer you constructive advice their comment just isnt relevant to you. Trying to reason with people like this is a waste of your time.
Look, I can tell your a decent person just for even questioning the morality surrounding it. Just be as respectful as you can possibly be and if your met with disrespect just dismiss it.
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In diamond, I see people get level shamed all the time. “Wow look at that gold border hard stuck in diamond!”
Yeah, totally not in like to top 15-20% of players. 